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Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 02:07:37 -0500

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019 at 6:02 PM Keith Medcalf <kmedcalf () dessus com> wrote:


Why would anyone with anything important to say use somethingmail.com

Somethingmail.com is not e-mail.  It is a Giggle Gaggle Google thing.

huh what?
;; ANSWER SECTION:
somethingmail.com. 86400 IN MX 10 mail.somethingmail.com.

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
somethingmail.com. 172795 IN NS ns2.allnotrisk.com.
somethingmail.com. 172795 IN NS ns1.allnotrisk.com.
somethingmail.com. 172795 IN NS ns4.allnotrisk.com.
somethingmail.com. 172795 IN NS ns3.allnotrisk.com.



--
The fact that there's a Highway to Hell but only a Stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces () nanog org> On Behalf Of Scott Weeks
Sent: Sunday, 29 December, 2019 15:38
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic



--- jhellenthal () dataix net wrote:
From: "J. Hellenthal" <jhellenthal () dataix net>

Yeah sorry to say any email list or not is going to be one
of the things that are not going to get through unless ...
you’ve taken extra measures to circumvent that.

Personally, email would be the easiest to block behind
riuting.
-------------------------------------------


After I sent the email I started to realize I likely
misunderstood.  I hesitated to correct that to the list,
but here I go. :)


queues can be written to media, physically transported
in/out, and then injected either into an internal or
external network seamlessly modulo the time delay.

I believe he meant similar to *nix boxes where you could
just copy the files in $HOME/mail (or where ever it is)
onto media and once the data is out of the country it can
be copied onto another mail system's $HOME/mail and then
shared with the unblocked part of the internet.  Not a
user account on somethingmail.com, but rather the entire
$HOME/mail of all accounts and mailed to someone else who
is somewhere else on a regular basis.  Also, the reverse
path for receiving mail in the repressive country.

A good idea either way.  KISS works. :)

scott
















--
J. Hellenthal

The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven
says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

On Dec 29, 2019, at 15:57, Scott Weeks <surfer () mauigateway com> wrote:



:: If you're trying to get information in/out of a
:: society that is raising network barriers to
:: realtime communication, then you need methods
:: that don't rely on a network and aren't realtime.


This is a great idea, but 99.9% of folks use GUI
email. :-(

scott




--- rsk () gsp org wrote:

From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk () gsp org>
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Iran cuts 95% of Internet traffic
Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 09:11:23 -0500


And this is why, despite all the disdainful remarks labeling such
things as "antiquated", mailing lists and Usenet newsgroups are vastly
superior to web sites/message boards/et.al. when it comes to
facilitating
many-to-many communications between people.  Why?  Well, there are many
reasons, but one of the applicable ones in this use case is that their
queues can be written to media, physically transported in/out, and then
injected either into an internal or external network seamlessly modulo
the
time delay.  And because the computing resources required to handle
this
are in any laptop or desktop made in the last decade, probably earlier.

If you're trying to get information in/out of a society that is raising
network barriers to realtime communication, then you need methods that
don't rely on a network and aren't realtime.

---rsk










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