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Re: 44/8
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:02:59 -0400
Was ARIN not involved? If not, why not? 44/8 isn’t like a normal assignment. It’s a legacy assignment likely with stipulations from when it was originally assigned to the HAM group(s).
My recollection from some years ago was that the IANA assignments done before the RIR system were not done with legally binding agreements as they are today. In the absence of proof that there were IANA legal restrictions on 44/8, that should likely not be assumed. On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:40 AM Brielle <bruns () 2mbit com> wrote:
On Jul 19, 2019, at 6:03 AM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote: Be specific in your report regarding what change you believe was inerror and why – we investigate all such reports and will correct any changes made in error. Actually, I’d love to hear an official statement from ARIN about the state of this transfer - it’s legitimacy, ARINs involvement with it, who approved of the transfer (if any) etc. Was ARIN not involved? If not, why not? 44/8 isn’t like a normal assignment. It’s a legacy assignment likely with stipulations from when it was originally assigned to the HAM group(s). From the outside, this smells fishy and reeks of backroom deals. I remember when ARIN was handing out /20s to shell company spam spewers on a daily basis, with fraudulent Whois records and companies that were formed the day before just to get clean IP space to spew from. The drawn out bullshit I had to deal with just to legitimately transfer a legacy /24 from an old consulting company to my new one, where you (ARIN) demanded we hand over confidential business documents including asset lists, company financials... So yeah, some of us kinda view this with a huge level of awe and disgust. I’m not a HAM license holder, but that doesn’t mean that situations like this don’t make me worry.
Current thread:
- RE: 44/8, (continued)
- Re: 44/8 Tom Beecher (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 John Curran (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 Tom Beecher (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 John Curran (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 Tom Beecher (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 Tom Beecher (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 William Waites (Jul 18)
- Re: 44/8 Matt Corallo (Jul 18)
- Re: 44/8 Matt Harris (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 Seth Mattinen (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 Stephane Bortzmeyer (Jul 19)
- Re: 44/8 Todd Underwood (Jul 22)