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Re: 44/8


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2019 11:02:59 -0400


Was ARIN not involved?  If not, why not?  44/8 isn’t like a normal
assignment.  It’s a legacy assignment likely with stipulations from when it
was originally assigned to the HAM group(s).


My recollection from some years ago was that the IANA assignments done
before the RIR system were not done with legally binding agreements as they
are today.

In the absence of proof that there were IANA legal restrictions on 44/8,
that should likely not be assumed.

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 10:40 AM Brielle <bruns () 2mbit com> wrote:


On Jul 19, 2019, at 6:03 AM, John Curran <jcurran () arin net> wrote:
Be specific in your report regarding what change you believe was in
error and why – we investigate all such reports and will correct any
changes made in error.

Actually, I’d love to hear an official statement from ARIN about the state
of this transfer - it’s legitimacy, ARINs involvement with it, who approved
of the transfer (if any) etc.

Was ARIN not involved?  If not, why not?  44/8 isn’t like a normal
assignment.  It’s a legacy assignment likely with stipulations from when it
was originally assigned to the HAM group(s).

From the outside, this smells fishy and reeks of backroom deals.

I remember when ARIN was handing out /20s to shell company spam spewers on
a daily basis, with fraudulent Whois records and companies that were formed
the day before just to get clean IP space to spew from.

The drawn out bullshit I had to deal with just to legitimately transfer a
legacy /24 from an old consulting company to my new one, where you (ARIN)
demanded we hand over confidential business documents including asset
lists, company financials...

So yeah, some of us kinda view this with a huge level of awe and disgust.
I’m not a HAM license holder, but that doesn’t mean that situations like
this don’t make me worry.


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