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Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure
From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 22:53:24 -0400
You know how to help. Take the Loadsharers pleadge and spread the word.
Or maybe suggest to some of these BDFL that they loosen their self imposed requirements to maintain absolute control of the code, and share the workload. It's not hard to work 50 hours a week for free. Don't! On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:23 PM Eric S. Raymond <esr () thyrsus com> wrote:
Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org>:This may have been an anomaly made possible by early .com $, but I'mprettysure at one point, companies like VA Research / VA Linux employeddeveloperswho in various cases worked part or full time on the Linux kernel andotherOpen Source projects "as their job".I was on the Board of Directors of VA Linux at the time. I know we did. That kind of generosity can exist, yes. But the economic headwinds are against it. If you're one of the lucky developers patronized *inside* a corporation, you are never more than one bad quarter from being defunded. For some projects, like Apache or the Linux kernel, the business case for cross-corporate collaboration on shared infrastructure is so clear that even a succession of non-technical bosses can grasp it. And when that happens, you can thank me, because I wrote up that business case where it could become part of C-level thinking. That just means that people like me get to worry about the next level of the problem. Shared infrastructure where the connection to profits is *not* one that a non-technical executive can easily grasp. Good luck keeping *that* sort of work funded inside a for-profit organizatiion.That you've developed/maintained software that's in every Android device, but haven't been paid by anyone for that may be the biggest flaw withOpenSource / Free Software. Presumably, if you chose to stop doing that work and nobody volunteered to step into your place, Google (and others)would beforced to fork the code and pay developers to maintain their ownversions. They would. More efficient for me to keep doing it, but that's not an efficiency that shows up in a manager's quarterlies.Free software was meant to give users control of / access to thecode...notcreate a parasitic ecosystem where some people code because they enjoydoingit and others profit from their work by packaging and selling it orthingsbased on it.My eyes were open. Open source was, and is, a solution - oe ary least a good hard whack - at one set of systemic problems. Now we get to deal with the problems that come from the solution. That's what I'm trying to do. You know how to help. Take the Loadsharers pleadge and spread the word. -- <a href="http://www.catb.org/~esr/">Eric S. Raymond</a>
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- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure, (continued)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Jeff Shultz (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Jeff Shultz (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Jon Lewis (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Chris Adams (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Tom Beecher (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Chris Adams (Jun 27)
- Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- OFFTRACK - Re: 1st Linux Distro [was:Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure] Miles Fidelman (Jun 27)
- Re: OFFTRACK - Re: 1st Linux Distro [was:Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure] Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)
- Re: OFFTRACK - Re: 1st Linux Distro [was:Re: Crowdfunding critical infrastructure] Eric S. Raymond (Jun 27)