Re: VDSL

[Eric Dugas <edugas () unknowndevice ca>]

Bell Canada still uses a lot of VDSL2 last-miles in Quebec and Ontario.

Max speed is 100/10 over bonded pairs and 50/10 over a single pair over short distances. Generally served from a 
fiber-fed DSLAM and less than 500 meters.
On Oct 15 2019, at 1:48 pm, Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com> wrote:
> I understand. My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL is what the engineers deploying on the 
> street told me. I think there is a node right outside.
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> Regards,
>
> Roderick.
>
> From: Matt Harris <matt () netfire net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM
> To: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
> Cc: Nanog () nanog org <Nanog () nanog org>
> Subject: Re: VDSL
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> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com (mailto:rod.beck () unitedcablecompany 
> com)> wrote:
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>
> > Hi,
> >
> >
> > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings 
> > where my flats are located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998.
> >
> > Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side?
>
> Hey Rod,
> Are you sure they're using VDSL (I'm assuming you mean VDSL2 which is still in fairly wide use around the world)? 
> 500mbit VDSL2 would have a very short run limitation afaik. It wouldn't be last mile, more like last meter. :)
>
> It's not super-widely used in the US today since Verizon and others have built out increasing FTTH networks and 
> always had to compete with DOCSIS based services which are very widespread here, though I wouldn't be surprised if it 
> was still frequently the "better than satellite!" service available in some rural areas that aren't too hard to reach 
> with cabling. A decade ago, you would've seen a lot more VDSL2 deployments here in the US, though usually no more 
> than 25 or 50 mbit capacity for the end-user.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VDSL_and_VDSL2_deployments has a bunch of interesting details though I can 
> attest to some of them being fairly out of date.