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Re: Texas ERCOT power shortages (again) April 13


From: Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:32:25 +0200



On 4/14/21 17:12, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

Bringing it back to the topic on hand: How do we keep the grid up? Or plan for it not being up?

I think "planning for the grid not being up" is more within our control than the former :-).

Data centres serving base power load from solar PV, for example, can be one place to start if they have the land (or rooftop space), in economies where they are not only allowed to do grid feed-in, but are also able to draw those credits from the grid in the evenings and/or on cloud days. Of course, if the grid allows this but is unreliable, then this doesn't work very well. But if it does, low-hanging fruit.

I think data centres are already good at performing demand side management with how they use energy, given that they are now classified by how much electrical energy that they can deliver vs. how much space they have to sell. So while these activities help alleviate pressure on the national grid, they probably have a more meaningful impact that gives the data centre the opportunity to operate its own mini grid that would survive a national grid outage, while minimizing its carbon footprint. But this requires even more deliberate, multi-faceted initiatives from the data centre operator, which costs money.

National grid prices are only going in one direction, the world over. Couple that with an expected reduction in generation capacity (reliable or otherwise) due to the rising levels of electrification, one would not be entirely off-base if they approached the problem from a "How do we stay up, regardless of the grid's condition" vs. "How do we go green", because I believe the answer to both those questions innately calls for renewable generation, operated at a very small scale to the rest of the nation.

Think about this: there are more mobile phones in Africa than there are people with electricity. At its most basic, those phones need to be charged. The same can be said for most of the developing world. Care to imagine what shambles the power companies will be in when those people finally get on to the grid? It's not like they don't need their Facebook, Google or Instagram :-)...

Mark.


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