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Re: DoD IP Space
From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 04:44:46 +0000
Ryan, My motives are not political. It doesn’t matter which party is behind this (and it looks like both would have to be, based on the timeline). I’m treating this sudden advertisement of IP space as I would any other hostile actor, which NANOGers filter all the time. If the DOD comes clean and provides the required registered contact information, I might reconsider. But I’ve already called the published abuse contact number, and they say they don’t deal with “the public”. Until the DoD makes clear their intentions, blocking this IP space is the only sensible decision. -mel
On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Ryan Hamel <administrator () rkhtech org> wrote: Mel, I hope you're not implementing this in an ISP network, it's not net neutral if a carrier is making a (political) route/filtering decision. (Points to The Great Firewall of China) Ryan -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech.org () nanog org> On Behalf Of Mel Beckman Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 4:17 PM To: William Herrin <bill () herrin us> Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: DoD IP Space Bill, It’s the INTERNET that is civilian, not the IP space. As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private space, as far as the Internet was concerned. Now DoD has moved it into the civilian Internet, and I treat them as potentially malicious as I do any other organization that lies, cheats, and steals the public trust. -melOn Apr 24, 2021, at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> wrote: This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum.You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have never been "civilian." They came into DoD's possession when this was all still a military project funded by what's now DARPA. Personally, I think we may have an all time record for the largest honeypot ever constructed. I'd love to be a fly on that wall. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin bill () herrin us https://bill.herrin.us/
Current thread:
- Re: DoD IP Space, (continued)
- Re: DoD IP Space Mel Beckman (Apr 24)
- Re: DoD IP Space Owen DeLong via NANOG (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Mel Beckman (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Carlos M. Martinez (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Mel Beckman (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Christopher Morrow (Apr 27)
- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Apr 27)
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- Re: DoD IP Space Randy Bush (Apr 27)
- RE: DoD IP Space Ryan Hamel (Apr 24)
- Re: DoD IP Space Mel Beckman (Apr 24)
- Re: DoD IP Space Tom Beecher (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Ca By (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space John Curran (Apr 26)
- RE: DoD IP Space Jean St-Laurent via NANOG (Apr 26)
- RE: DoD IP Space Jean St-Laurent via NANOG (Apr 25)
- Re: DoD IP Space Stephane Bortzmeyer (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space John Curran (Apr 25)
- Re: DoD IP Space Michael Thomas (Apr 26)
- Re: DoD IP Space Mel Beckman (Apr 25)