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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:29:48 -0700
Um, Mike, no… That’s neither a fair nor accurate characterization of the current situation. AFRINIC has been given access to the equivalent of two months of operating costs from their bank accounts in a recent court ruling, so they are nowhere close to shut down. All of the chicken littles running around claiming otherwise notwithstanding, no, AFRINIC was never actually shut down. Further, the registries are not engaged in the daily operations of the internet. They come into play for adds and changes, primarily and those transactions while important are not generally urgent. Were AFRINIC unable to staff its offices for some period of time, I’m quite certain that the other RIRs would be able to take up those key functions, either by loaning personnel to AFRINIC or by taking over those necessary roles as needed either temporarily or permanently. So while having the system react strongly to such a threat would be understandable, that’s a very overblown and inaccurate characterization of the threat in question. Owen
On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:00 , Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com> wrote: But to be clear, if this was a simple court case I don't think anyone on this list would have an issue with simply sitting back and letting the court decide. You have to remember though that CI in this case has essentially forced one of the major registrars to virtually shut down. That's a direct attack on the system that is of fundamental importance to the proper running of the Internet. Having the system react strongly to such a threat is entirely understandable. On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net> wrote:----- On Aug 30, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Rubens Kuhl rubensk () gmail com wrote:And that's why carpet bombing those IP blocks might be needed so the nextentity that ends up with those IP addresses long after CI has gone into oblivion will have its engineers debug odd routing issues for years. We all know that people regularly fail to update their manually entered filters on at least a few of their routers. The learned people on this list do not strike me as the kind of person to go out and engage in vigilante justice if a court decides against them. The very fabric of our civilized society depends on us resolving our conflicts in court, not out on the (virtual) streets. You may disagree with a ruling but I implore you to respect it. Rules... Without them we'd live with the animals.* Thanks, Sabri *(c) John Wick-- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
Current thread:
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation, (continued)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 31)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Christopher Morrow (Aug 30)
- Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) John Curran (Aug 31)
- Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 31)
- Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) John Curran (Aug 31)
- Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation) Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 31)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Rubens Kuhl (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Sabri Berisha (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mike Hale (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation John Kristoff (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Tom Beecher (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Randy Bush (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Noah (Aug 31)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Mark Tinka (Aug 30)
- Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation Owen DeLong via NANOG (Aug 30)