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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation


From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:29:48 -0700

Um, Mike, no… That’s neither a fair nor accurate characterization of the current
situation.

AFRINIC has been given access to the equivalent of two months of operating costs
from their bank accounts in a recent court ruling, so they are nowhere close to shut
down. All of the chicken littles running around claiming otherwise notwithstanding,
no, AFRINIC was never actually shut down.

Further, the registries are not engaged in the daily operations of the internet. They
come into play for adds and changes, primarily and those transactions while important
are not generally urgent. Were AFRINIC unable to staff its offices for some period of
time, I’m quite certain that the other RIRs would be able to take up those key functions,
either by loaning personnel to AFRINIC or by taking over those necessary roles as
needed either temporarily or permanently.

So while having the system react strongly to such a threat would be understandable,
that’s a very overblown and inaccurate characterization of the threat in question.

Owen


On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:00 , Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com> wrote:

But to be clear, if this was a simple court case I don't think anyone
on this list would have an issue with simply sitting back and letting
the court decide.

You have to remember though that CI in this case has essentially
forced one of the major registrars to virtually shut down.  That's a
direct attack on the system that is of fundamental importance to the
proper running of the Internet.  Having the system react strongly to
such a threat is entirely understandable.

On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 10:40 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri () cluecentral net> wrote:

----- On Aug 30, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Rubens Kuhl rubensk () gmail com wrote:

And that's why carpet bombing those IP blocks might be needed so the next

entity that ends up with those IP addresses long after CI has gone into
oblivion will have its engineers debug odd routing issues for years. We all
know that people regularly fail to update their manually entered filters on
at least a few of their routers.

The learned people on this list do not strike me as the kind of person to
go out and engage in vigilante justice if a court decides against them. The
very fabric of our civilized society depends on us resolving our conflicts
in court, not out on the (virtual) streets. You may disagree with a ruling
but I implore you to respect it.

Rules... Without them we'd live with the animals.*

Thanks,

Sabri

*(c) John Wick



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