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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
From: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 15:13:58 +0000
It will happen because storm frequency and outages will rise throughout the century. It is a capital investment that will sharply reduce outages. Florida is on the verge of putting their long-haul power underground. Texas is primed for storms due to the high and growing humidity in the Gulf. Finally, capital costs - interest - is low. Both governments and big corporates pay very little to borrow so it is not onerous. May be it is time to make America great again. 😉 Nor does it have to be mandatory for all systems. But there should be at least one power network in the ground as well as one telco network. Regards, Roderick. ________________________________ From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 3:38 PM To: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> Cc: Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>; nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote: It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the underground plant. The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right of way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in as well.
Labor is something in 8x but the permit/engineering cost is usually the same per foot, but the make-ready on poles can make underground competitive or more like 1.5x when you fully bake the costs. Really depends on pole distances and quality. O&M long-term is lower on underground vs aerial. - Jared
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- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts, (continued)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Brett Frankenberger (Feb 16)
- RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sean Donelan (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sabri Berisha (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Robert DeVita (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Matt Erculiani (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Jared Mauch (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Mike Hammett (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Peter Beckman (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Karl Auer (Feb 16)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Ge DUPIN (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts JÁKÓ András (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rafael Possamai (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Rod Beck (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Sean Donelan (Feb 17)
- Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts Andy Ringsmuth (Feb 17)