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Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts


From: Matt Erculiani <merculiani () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:34:03 -0700

Texas does have DC ties to other grids, there just isn't enough capacity
there to really matter (820 MW total to the Eastern US grid). This is
fairly standard though when you're on your own grid, UK and France have DC
ties as well that run underneath the English Channel.

ERCOT is using a little bit currently:
http://www.ercot.com/content/cdr/html/real_time_system_conditions.html

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 9:17 AM Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

Agreed.

Well, or interconnection with other grids that *do* have available
generation.  :-)



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*From: *"Robert DeVita" <radevita () mejeticks com>
*To: *"Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net>, "Rod Beck" <
rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
*Cc: *nanog () nanog org
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:30:50 AM
*Subject: *Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

What’s going on in Texas has nothing to do with power distribution. It has
to do with ability to generate power.

Robert DeVita
Founder & CEO
Mejeticks
c. 469-441-8864
e. radevita () mejeticks com
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*From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+radevita=mejeticks.com () nanog org> on behalf
of Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2021 7:25:12 AM
*To:* Rod Beck <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
*Cc:* nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
*Subject:* Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

It's cheaper to build 2x, 3x, 4x the aerial plant than to build 1x the
underground plant.

The actual cost per foot is more like 10x difference, but there are right
of way, maintenance, etc. costs to factor in as well.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions

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*From: *"Rod Beck" <rod.beck () unitedcablecompany com>
*To: *"Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com>, "Mikael Abrahamsson" <
swmike () swm pp se>
*Cc: *nanog () nanog org
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 16, 2021 6:05:41 AM
*Subject: *Re: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts

Are the power lines buried like in Europe where I live?

I really think using poles is crazy and global warming guarantees enough
atmospheric turbulence to make it untenable. Florida is moving to bury
power lines.

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*From: *NANOG <nanog-bounces+rod.beck=unitedcablecompany.com () nanog org>
on behalf of Mikael Abrahamsson via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 16, 2021 9:06 AM
*To: *Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
*Cc: *nanog () nanog org <nanog () nanog org>
*Subject: *RE: Texas internet connectivity declining due to blackouts
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021, Sean Donelan wrote:

Strange the massive shortages and failures are only in one state.

The extreme cold weather extends northwards across many states, which
aren't
reporting rolling blackouts.

https://www.texastribune.org/2011/02/08/texplainer-why-does-texas-have-its-own-power-grid/


Going at it alone can be beneficial sometimes, sometimes it's not.

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Matt Erculiani
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