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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections


From: Cory Sell via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2021 14:34:30 +0000

Is that fair to the guy in a 150+ person apartment building? One gets solitude and fiber internet, the other has to 
deal with neighbors and gets fiber internet.

They both get fiber internet and chose where to live, so sure why not? Why are so many of us in the US so against 
something that can benefit everybody? Why must many of us feel that we have to be above others or benefit more than 
others based on arbitrary decisions. I’d bet rural communities would grow if solid internet was not even a concern 
anymore. I know family who live “in the city” (<6000 population) that need good internet and simply can’t get it even a 
couple of miles outside of town unless they live directly off the main two-lane highway in and out. Many of them are 
relying 100% on grandfathered unlimited 4G hotspots for all of their connectivity, and it’s a huge struggle.

Where’s the nearest fiber for many of them? A mile away or less, and plenty of homes around them that would be 
connected up along the way.

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On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com> wrote:

"If it was affordable" is a tricky statement. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If 
taxes/government/municipalities/etc are required to make it "affordable" that means all of the people are paying for 
it with extra steps.

To put it very simply, imagine the US does fiber the way it does power. If every single person throws in $10/mo every 
month we could easily hook up that guy that's 5 miles from the closest source of power/water in the Nevada desert. Is 
that fair to the guy in a 150+ person apartment building? One gets solitude and fiber internet, the other has to deal 
with neighbors and gets fiber internet.

Exclude the problems with government regulated power (or anything) for this topic, please.

Heck, for many people, water and power are not cheaply available.

In what instance? Power has cost assistance and water in most environments is pretty accessible. I'm not sure what 
you mean here.

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 9:39 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:

On 6/2/21 15:26, Josh Luthman wrote:

I for one am not part of that goal (water for sure, power second).
Not everyone needs fiber at the massive cost it has.

Cost aside, I'm sure you'd want everyone to have fibre it was affordable.

Heck, for many people, water and power are not cheaply available.

Mark.

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