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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
From: Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 10:35:14 -0400
Oh I see where you're coming from. "No such thing as a free lunch" is a phrase, basically stating nothing is ever actually free. In other words, making it affordable for everyone comes at a cost to everyone. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_ain%27t_no_such_thing_as_a_free_lunch Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 10:11 AM Mark Tinka <mark@tinka.africa> wrote:
On 6/2/21 15:53, Josh Luthman wrote: "If it was affordable" is a tricky statement. There's no such thing as a free lunch. If taxes/government/municipalities/etc are required to make it "affordable" that means all of the people are paying for it with extra steps. Nobody says we should offer free fibre. There are markets that find mobile data unaffordable. To put it very simply, imagine the US does fiber the way it does power. If every single person throws in $10/mo every month we could easily hook up that guy that's 5 miles from the closest source of power/water in the Nevada desert. Is that fair to the guy in a 150+ person apartment building? One gets solitude and fiber internet, the other has to deal with neighbors and gets fiber internet. Exclude the problems with government regulated power (or anything) for this topic, please. You now see why I don't live in the U.S. :-). Seriously, in case it wasn't obvious, I don't live in the U.S., nor am I American. Translation, it probably is not harmful to compare this issue with non-U.S. markets, which was your argument. In what instance? Power has cost assistance and water in most environments is pretty accessible. I'm not sure what you mean here. Again, non-U.S. context. There are many markets where folk have a mobile phones and some data, but no access to power or clean water. In others, bringing water or power to areas means bribing officials for years and still getting nothing. But they may be able to pick up some 3G :-). Mark.
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- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Christopher Morrow (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections heasley (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Christopher Morrow (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections heasley (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Josh Luthman (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Christopher Morrow (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Forrest Christian (List Account) (Jun 03)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mark Tinka (Jun 02)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe (Jun 01)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (Jun 02)