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Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections
From: Andy Ringsmuth <andy () andyring com>
Date: Sat, 29 May 2021 16:19:37 -0500
Well, honestly, if you really want to go down the “need vs. want” road, 100 percent of the folks on this list would be out of a job. What are genuine needs? Food/water, clothing and shelter. That’s it. Even the last two are somewhat negotiable if you get right down to it. ---- Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 andy () andyring com “Better even die free, than to live slaves.” - Frederick Douglas, 1863
On May 29, 2021, at 7:48 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote: Need vs. want. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com From: "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl () gmail com> To: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 3:49:01 AM Subject: Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections I am in Europe / Denmark. The EU has defined broadband to be 100 Mbps download with nothing specified for upload. The goal is for everyone to have access to broadband by 2025. Such definitions do help those in rural areas. In fact this is precisely useful for those that do not currently have access. It helps to make goals and to measure how we are progressing. All current technologies can deliver broadband, including DSL, coax, 5G and fixed wireless. But maybe not without investment. That DSL plant might need upgrading to the latest VDSL and cabinets closer to the customer. The coax might need upgrades etc. But that is the point. Providers will need to invest to be able to claim broadband. On the other hand a soft easy broadband definition is useless in my opinion. Then everyone has broadband, hurray, but many have slow internet and nothing is going to be done because it is broadband! Regards Baldur
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- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections, (continued)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Bryan Fields (May 30)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Ethan O'Toole (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Dan Stralka (May 28)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Baldur Norddahl (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Mike Hammett (May 29)
- Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections Andy Ringsmuth (May 29)
- Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Sean Donelan (May 29)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Etienne-Victor Depasquale (May 29)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Masataka Ohta (May 30)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Mike Hammett (May 30)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Josh Luthman (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Fred Baker (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Denys Fedoryshchenko (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Eric Kuhnke (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) james.cutler () consultant com (May 31)
- Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) Eric Kuhnke (May 30)