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RE: Network visibility
From: "Kain, Becki (.)" <bkain1 () ford com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2021 16:13:45 +0000
I'm just kidding. I wasn't on until 1990 when I was teaching IBM 370 assembler -----Original Message----- From: Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 12:12 PM To: Kain, Becki (.) <bkain1 () ford com> Cc: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>; bzs () theworld com; nanog <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: Network visibility Becki, I was on ARPANET through the USDA in the 1980s. So, not that old :) -mel
On Oct 21, 2021, at 9:04 AM, Kain, Becki (.) <bkain1 () ford com> wrote: How old are all you people? đ (JK) -----Original Message----- From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+bkain1=ford.com () nanog org> On Behalf Of Owen DeLong via NANOG Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2021 11:43 AM To: bzs () theworld com Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Network visibility WARNING: This message originated outside of Ford Motor Company. Use caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding.On Oct 20, 2021, at 14:19 , bzs () theworld com wrote: On October 20, 2021 at 16:08 mel () beckman org (Mel Beckman) wrote:Mark, Before 1983, the ARPANET wasnât an internet, let alone The Internet. Each ARPANET connection required a host-specific interface (the âIMPâ) and simplex Network Control Protocol (NCP). NCP used users' email addresses, and routing had to be specified in advance within each NCP message.I think you mean before 1982. TCP/IP was deployed starting in 1982. NCP was deprecated (removed from the ARPANET) January 1, 1983, but TCP/IP was implemented (and deployed) prior to that.Then again there were IMPs fitted to various systems like TOPS-10, ITS, Vax/BSD Unix, IBM370, etc. So was that really all that different from ethernet vs, oh, wi-fi or fiber today, you needed an adapter?It really wasnât, but even if you just want to count from TCP/IP forward, 1983 isnât the correct date. 1983 was when we turned off NCP. It wasnât when we turned on TCP/IP. The turn on of TCP/IP occurred over several months, so thereâs no particular date that can be assigned to it. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Network visibility, (continued)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Mark Tinka (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Mark Tinka (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility bzs (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Daniel Seagraves (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 21)
- RE: Network visibility Kain, Becki (.) (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 21)
- RE: Network visibility Kain, Becki (.) (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Gerry Boudreaux (Oct 21)
- RE: Network visibility bzs (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- RE: Network visibility bzs (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Jay Hennigan (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Miles Fidelman (Oct 20)
- Re: Network visibility Owen DeLong via NANOG (Oct 21)
- Re: Network visibility Mel Beckman (Oct 21)