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Re: IPv6 woes - RFC
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 14:20:04 -0700
On 9/14/21 2:07 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
You’d be surprised… Vendors often get well down a path before exposing enough information to the community to get the negative feedback their solution so richly deserves. At that point, they have rather strong incentives to push for the IETF adopting their solution over customer objections because of entrenched code-base and a desire not to go back and explain to management that the idea they’ve been working on for the last 6 months is stillborn.Vendors have to be able to implement things so of course there is going to be push back when it's not technically feasible or far more expensive. Nobody expects customers putting out the actual $$$ to be up to speed on the intricacies of TCAM's and other such considerations so there is always going to be back and forth.But we're talking almost 30 years ago when the internet was tiny. And it's not like operators were some fount of experience and wisdom back then: everybody was making it up along the way including operators which barely even existed back then. I mean, we're talking about the netcom days here. That's why this stinks of revisionist history to me.I was there for parts of it. Even then, the vendors were entrenched in their views and dominated many of the conversations.
And none of this alters that nobody has given a scenario where their $SOLUTION would have fared any better than ipv6.
Mike
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Joe Maimon (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Eliot Lear (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Randy Bush (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Eliot Lear (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Randy Bush (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Randy Bush (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC bzs (Sep 15)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Sabri Berisha (Sep 15)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC bzs (Sep 15)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Masataka Ohta (Sep 14)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)