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Re: IPv6 woes - RFC
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 16:20:06 -0700
On 9/14/21 12:44 AM, Eliot Lear wrote:
So I'm beginning to think that the reason ipv6 didn't take off is one simple thing: time. All of the infighting took years and by then that ship had long sailed. The basic mechanisms for v6 for hosts were not complicated and all of the second system syndrome fluff could be mostly be ignored or implemented when it actually made sense. If this had been settled within a year instead of five, there may have been a chance especially since specialized hardware was either nonexistent or just coming on the scene. I mean, Kalpana was still pretty new when a lot of this was being first discussed from what I can tell. Maybe somebody else knows when hardware routing came on the scene but there was still lots of software forwarding planes when I started at Cisco in 1998 just as broadband was starting to flow.There were four proposals for the IPng: * NIMROD, PIP, SIP, and TUBASIP was the one that was chosen, supported by endpoint manufacturers such as Sun and SGI, and it was the MOST compatible. Operators and router manufacturers at the time pushed TUBA, which was considerably less compatible with the concepts used in v4 because of variable length addressing. If we endpoints had some notion that v6 would take as long as it has to diffuse, perhaps we all might have thought differently. I don't know.
The IETF was a victim of its own dysfunction, film at 11 and now we're having a 30 year reunion.
Mike
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- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Curran (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Jeroen Massar via NANOG (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Eliot Lear (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Curran (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Eliot Lear (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Curran (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Randy Bush (Sep 17)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Masataka Ohta (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Curran (Sep 17)
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- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 15)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Michael Thomas (Sep 15)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Carsten Bormann (Sep 16)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Mark Tinka (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 13)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Bill Woodcock (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC John Levine (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Fred Baker (Sep 11)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 08)