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Re: IPv6 woes - RFC
From: Owen DeLong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 09:38:30 -0700
On Sep 18, 2021, at 23:20 , Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp> wrote: John Levine wrote:Unless their infrastructure runs significantly on hardware and software pre-2004 (unlikely), so does the cost of adding IPv6 to their content servers. Especially if they’re using a CDN such as Akamai.I wasn't talking about switches and routers.But, on routers, IPv6 costs four times more than IPv4 to look up routing table with TCAM or Patricia tree. It is not a problem yet, merely because full routing table of IPv6 is a lot smaller than that of IPv4, which means most small ISPs and multihomed sites do not support IPv6.
Well, it’s a combination. Even with full v6 adoption, the routing table in v6 should be substantially smaller. Compare AS6939 v4 vs. v6: + 6939 is probably the most v6 fully implemented ASN on the planet. + 6939 announces 4 of their own prefixes in v6 (They do originate 19 prefixes on behalf of customers) + 6939 announces at least 41 of their own prefixes in v4 and originates myriad customer prefixes in v4. That’s more than 10x the prefixes in v4 for the same network fully dual-stacked vs. what is announced in v6. v4 is so thoroughly fragmented and v6 is a lot less likely to become so.
Mark Andrews wrote:There is nothing at the protocol level stopping AT&T offering a similar level of service.Setting up reverse DNS lookup for 16B address is annoying, which may stop AT&T offering it.
Why would one need to do that? For customers with a static prefix that want reverse DNS capabilities, offer to point the NS records for their prefix wherever they want and let them run their own DNS servers.
Don’t equate poor implementation with the protocol being broken.IPv6 is broken in several ways. One of the worst thing is its address length.
Why do you think 128 bits isn’t enough? Owen
Current thread:
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC, (continued)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Jared Mauch (Sep 18)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 18)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 18)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Victor Kuarsingh (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 20)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 18)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Masataka Ohta (Sep 18)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Saku Ytti (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Masataka Ohta (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Stephen Satchell (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 19)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Masataka Ohta (Sep 20)
- RE: IPv6 woes - RFC Brian Turnbow via NANOG (Sep 20)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 20)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Owen DeLong via NANOG (Sep 20)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Masataka Ohta (Sep 22)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Baldur Norddahl (Sep 22)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Colton Conor (Sep 22)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Mark Andrews (Sep 22)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Colton Conor (Sep 23)
- Re: IPv6 woes - RFC Eric Kuhnke (Sep 23)