Re: cogent and henet not peering

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

The problem them becomes *who* pays? When do the tables turn as to who pays? 


The alpha gets paid and the beta does the paying? 


The network with more POPs gets paid? 

The network with more downstream ASes gets paid? 


Is it the same for IPv4 as it is for IPv6? 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "VOLKAN KIRIK" <volkirik () gmail com> 
To: "Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk () gmail com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org, dschaeffer () cogentco com, peering () cogentco com 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM 
Subject: Re: cogent and henet not peering 


this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free. 
but everyone can. 
lets just say above 1:1 ratio he.net pays their own ip transit price to cogent for paid peering excess amount and both 
sides monitor traffic 
we can solve this issue by becoming middlemen worldwide... 
both operators are cheap and they could all compete in quality. 
level3 pays comcast reasonable (cheap) price (under NDA maybe?). why wouldnt mleber? 
but to make it fair, as he.net becomes ww tier-1 operator day-by-day, lets just limit pricing to excess amount of 
traffic 
thanks for reading 
would appreciate your support 


19.08.2022 18:09 tarihinde Rubens Kuhl yazdı: 


OTOH, knowing that Cogent loves splitting the global Internet is one
good reason to not contract their services.
I think they sell traffic to their private Intranet. Which is huge,
but doesn't encompass the whole Internet.


Rubens

On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:04 PM VOLKAN KIRIK <volkirik () gmail com> wrote: 
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lets just say cogent gives 400GE in each pop they have in common with he.net for free.

BUT they will rate-limit he.net links to previous month's 95th percentile upload or download (which is minimum) rate 
(each month)

to make ratio 1:1... to make downstream and upstream traffics fair...

okay?

fine?

come on people,

segmentation is bad. 


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