Re: cogent and henet not peering

[VOLKAN KIRIK <volkirik () gmail com>]

the more uploading side pays each month for the excess amount.

as content networks are supposed to pay expenses.


what do you think?


19.08.2022 18:28 tarihinde Mike Hammett yazdı:
> The problem them becomes *who* pays? When do the tables turn as to who 
> pays?
>
> The alpha gets paid and the beta does the paying?
>
> The network with more POPs gets paid?
>
> The network with more downstream ASes gets paid?
>
> Is it the same for IPv4 as it is for IPv6?
>
>
>
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> *From: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" <volkirik () gmail com>
> *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk () gmail com>
> *Cc: *nanog () nanog org, dschaeffer () cogentco com, peering () cogentco com
> *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM
> *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not peering
>
> this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free.
>
> but everyone can.
>
> lets just say above 1:1 ratio he.net pays their own ip transit price 
> to cogent for paid peering excess amount and both sides monitor traffic
>
> we can solve this issue by becoming middlemen worldwide...
>
> both operators are cheap and they could all compete in quality.
>
> level3 pays comcast reasonable (cheap) price (under NDA maybe?). why 
> wouldnt mleber?
>
> but to make it fair, as he.net becomes ww tier-1 operator day-by-day, 
> lets just limit pricing to excess amount of traffic
>
> thanks for reading
>
> would appreciate your support
>
>
> 19.08.2022 18:09 tarihinde Rubens Kuhl yazdı:
>
>     OTOH, knowing that Cogent loves splitting the global Internet is one
>     good reason to not contract their services.
>     I think they sell traffic to their private Intranet. Which is huge,
>     but doesn't encompass the whole Internet.
>
>
>     Rubens
>
>     On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:04 PM VOLKAN KIRIK<volkirik () gmail com>  wrote:
>
>         lets just say cogent gives 400GE in each pop they have in common with he.net for free.
>
>         BUT they will rate-limit he.net links to previous month's 95th percentile upload or download (which is minimum) 
> rate (each month)
>
>         to make ratio 1:1... to make downstream and upstream traffics fair...
>
>         okay?
>
>         fine?
>
>         come on people,
>
>         segmentation is bad.