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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers


From: "james.cutler () consultant com" <james.cutler () consultant com>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 18:59:49 -0400

On May 23, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:


On 5/23/22 3:26 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Is it?

What’s the bandwidth of a good quality 4K stream? What about 4 of them + various additional interactive 
technologies, software downloads, media downloads, etc.?

Looking at the graphs, my household (which isn’t average by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a household) 
doesn’t need a gig very often, but there are the occasional multiple hours where my Gig downstream does flatline at 
about 950Mbps.

So I’d say that I make sufficiently frequent use of the gig that is available as to render it unlikely I would be 
satisfied with less bandwidth.

If you're going to use downloads as the benchmark, what about 10G or 40G as the baseline? I mean, that's an 
unwinnable treadmill.

But from my reading about 25Mbs is just on the edge of being ok with 4k. Certainly 100Mbs would be fine for multiple 
streams.

Mike


There is the other significant problem — using downloads as the benchmark. This ignores  being the family “IT 
consultant” doing remote support. This ignores voip telephony, hosting Zoom meetings with friends and family, class 
reunions, show and tell, informal classes, and eventually, shared Virtual scenarios. If the FCC ignores upload speed 
parity and BufferBloat controls, the end result will probably not be favorable from the user viewpoint. And I haven’t 
yet mentioned virtual presence at the SpaceX launch control center.

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