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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
From: "james.cutler () consultant com" <james.cutler () consultant com>
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 18:59:49 -0400
On May 23, 2022, at 6:39 PM, Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com> wrote:
On 5/23/22 3:26 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:Is it? What’s the bandwidth of a good quality 4K stream? What about 4 of them + various additional interactive technologies, software downloads, media downloads, etc.? Looking at the graphs, my household (which isn’t average by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a household) doesn’t need a gig very often, but there are the occasional multiple hours where my Gig downstream does flatline at about 950Mbps. So I’d say that I make sufficiently frequent use of the gig that is available as to render it unlikely I would be satisfied with less bandwidth.If you're going to use downloads as the benchmark, what about 10G or 40G as the baseline? I mean, that's an unwinnable treadmill. But from my reading about 25Mbs is just on the edge of being ok with 4k. Certainly 100Mbs would be fine for multiple streams. Mike
There is the other significant problem — using downloads as the benchmark. This ignores being the family “IT consultant” doing remote support. This ignores voip telephony, hosting Zoom meetings with friends and family, class reunions, show and tell, informal classes, and eventually, shared Virtual scenarios. If the FCC ignores upload speed parity and BufferBloat controls, the end result will probably not be favorable from the user viewpoint. And I haven’t yet mentioned virtual presence at the SpaceX launch control center.
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- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Josh Luthman (May 31)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (May 31)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers james.cutler () consultant com (May 23)
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- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Greg Shepherd (May 27)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers james.cutler () consultant com (May 23)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG (May 23)
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