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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 10:06:24 -0500 (CDT)

" However, this isn’t exactly new… Windows used to come on something like 31 3.5” floppies at one point." 




But you can still get incremental Windows Updates and don't have to redownload Windows any time something changes. 





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Midwest-IX 
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From: "Owen DeLong via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
To: "Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com> 
Cc: nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:26:39 AM 
Subject: Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers 


I agree that it probably doesn't change much for the ISP's (my rural ISP installing fiber apparently disagrees tho). 
The thing is that if you're talking about downloads, the game manufacturers will just fill to whatever available 
capacity the pipes will give so it probably won't ever get better. 

I don’t think game manufacturers expand their games based on available download bandwidth. I think that games have 
gotten richer and the graphics environments and capabilities have improved and content more expansive to a point where 
yes, games are several BluRays worth of download now instead of being shipped on multiple discs. 

However, this isn’t exactly new… Windows used to come on something like 31 3.5” floppies at one point. 

However, yes, a download will fill whatever bandwidth is available for as long as the download takes. If you’ve got 
1Gpbs, the download will take significantly less time than if you have 100Mbps. 

Maybe there a Next Big Thing that will be an even bigger bandwidth eater than video. But I get the bigger limitation 
these days for a lot of people is latency rather than bandwidth. That of course is harder to deal with. 

Latency is a limitation for things that are generally relatively low bandwidth (interactive audio, zoom, etc.). 

Higher bandwidth won’t solve the latency problem, but it does actually help some in that it reduces the duration of 
things other customers do to cause congestion which increases latency. 

Owen 



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