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Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 10:06:24 -0500 (CDT)
" However, this isn’t exactly new… Windows used to come on something like 31 3.5” floppies at one point." But you can still get incremental Windows Updates and don't have to redownload Windows any time something changes. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen DeLong via NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> To: "Michael Thomas" <mike () mtcc com> Cc: nanog () nanog org Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 1:26:39 AM Subject: Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers
I agree that it probably doesn't change much for the ISP's (my rural ISP installing fiber apparently disagrees tho). The thing is that if you're talking about downloads, the game manufacturers will just fill to whatever available capacity the pipes will give so it probably won't ever get better.
I don’t think game manufacturers expand their games based on available download bandwidth. I think that games have gotten richer and the graphics environments and capabilities have improved and content more expansive to a point where yes, games are several BluRays worth of download now instead of being shipped on multiple discs. However, this isn’t exactly new… Windows used to come on something like 31 3.5” floppies at one point. However, yes, a download will fill whatever bandwidth is available for as long as the download takes. If you’ve got 1Gpbs, the download will take significantly less time than if you have 100Mbps.
Maybe there a Next Big Thing that will be an even bigger bandwidth eater than video. But I get the bigger limitation these days for a lot of people is latency rather than bandwidth. That of course is harder to deal with.
Latency is a limitation for things that are generally relatively low bandwidth (interactive audio, zoom, etc.). Higher bandwidth won’t solve the latency problem, but it does actually help some in that it reduces the duration of things other customers do to cause congestion which increases latency. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers, (continued)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Owen DeLong via NANOG (May 24)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Kord Martin (May 25)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (May 31)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Livingood, Jason via NANOG (May 26)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG (May 26)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers babydr DBA James W. Laferriere (May 26)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Dave Taht (May 27)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Jared Mauch (May 29)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Sean Donelan (May 30)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Josh Luthman (May 31)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Mike Hammett (May 31)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers james.cutler () consultant com (May 23)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Owen DeLong via NANOG (May 24)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Greg Shepherd (May 27)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers james.cutler () consultant com (May 23)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Andrew Odlyzko via NANOG (May 23)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Bjørn Mork (May 24)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Chris Adams (May 28)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Randy Bush (May 28)
- Re: FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers Fred Baker (May 28)