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Re: Alternative Re: ipv4/25s and above Re: 202211201009.AYC


From: Tom Beecher <beecher () beecher cc>
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 12:00:48 -0500


As stated in Subsection 4.A. of the "Revamp The
Internet" whitepaper, all need be done is "Simply disable the existing
software codes that have been disabling the use of the 240/4 netblock."


Some friendly feedback. The phrase "all that needs to be done" , is
exceptionally reductive, and in the case of internet standards, also always
going to end up being wrong.

On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 11:19 AM Abraham Y. Chen <aychen () avinta com> wrote:

Dear Mark:

0) Thanks for the clarification. I understand. A short message through
the cyberspace, especially between parties who have never met can be
easily skewed. I am glad that I asked you, instead of taking it
negatively without raising my hand.

1) "...I'd, rather, expend those resources on IPv6, 464XLAT, e.t.c. ...
": Since EzIP is still being further refined, it may not be clear in our
documentation about how much work is required to get the IPv4 out of the
current depletion mode. As stated in Subsection 4.A. of the "Revamp The
Internet" whitepaper, all need be done is "Simply disable the existing
software codes that have been disabling the use of the 240/4 netblock."
In fact, we have found examples that this means commenting out one line
code that searches for then discards packets with 240/4 addressing. It
seems to me that there is no easier task than this.

https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf

Regards,

Abe (2022-11-21 11:18 EST)



On 2022-11-20 23:56, Mark Tinka wrote:


On 11/20/22 19:02, Abraham Y. Chen wrote:

Dear Mark:

0)  I am surprised at your apparently sarcastic opinion.

1)  The EzIP proposal as referenced by my last MSG is the result of
an in-depth system engineering effort. Since the resultant schemes do
not rely on any protocol development, IETF does not need be involved.
Especially, its first step of disabling one line of existing
networking program code empowers any party to begin deploying EzIP
stealthily for mitigating the IPv4 address pool depletion issues.
Note that EzIP is a generic solution applicable to everyone, not
limited to Africa.

2)  Of course, constructive criticism is always appreciated. However,
unspecific comments that confuse and distract the readers only
provide dis-service to those disadvantaged population who are
enduring the handicaps of being the late-comers to the Internet.

My comment was not directed at you. Sorry.

I have nothing against the EzIP proposal. It just does not add any
real value in solving the IPv4 depletion problem for the amount of
effort required to implement it, in my view. I'd, rather, expend those
resources on IPv6, 464XLAT, e.t.c.

Mark.



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