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Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
From: Ryan Hamel <ryan () rkhtech org>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2024 21:17:34 +0000
Abraham, What you are presenting here is a solution looking for a problem. There are multiple solutions available today that do not require your proposed hacks to IPv4 space. If your ideas keep getting rejected by the masses, maybe you should read the room and lookup the phrase "resistance is futile." That is the last of my .02c for this thread. Ryan ________________________________ From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech.org () nanog org> on behalf of Abraham Y. Chen via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2024 9:06:28 AM To: Chris Adams <cma () cmadams net> Cc: Chen, Abraham Y. <AYChen () alum MIT edu>; NANOG <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Caution: This is an external email and may be malicious. Please take care when clicking links or opening attachments. Hi, Chris: 0) Thanks for your observation. 1) Although I specifically requested Karim to go offline on our idea to his inquiry, lots of comments appeared on NANOG publicly. To be polite, I tried to respond by clarifying and describing each. Unfortunately, many comments are actually persistent IPv6 promotions, even my attempt of bringing up the community consensus of "Dual-Stack has distinguished IPv6 and IPv4 into separate tracks" was in vain. 2) Philosophically, IPv6 and IPv4 are kind of like two religions, each with its own believers. As long as the devotees of each focus on their respective passion, the world will be peaceful. As soon as one camp imposes its preference onto the other, friction starts. Unchecked, it can go even worse. ... But, I digressed. Regards, Abe (2024-01-21 12:06) On 2024-01-20 12:50, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, sronan () ronan-online com<mailto:sronan () ronan-online com> <sronan () ronan-online com><mailto:sronan () ronan-online com> said: I am curious if anyone has ever given you positive feedback on this idea? So far all I’ve seen is the entire community thinking it’s a bad idea. Why do you insist this is a good solution? Because people keep responding. [https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free.www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
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- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block, (continued)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Tom Beecher (Jan 16)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 18)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Christopher Hawker (Jan 18)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Christopher Morrow (Jan 18)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block richey goldberg (Jan 19)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen (Jan 20)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block sronan (Jan 20)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Chris Adams (Jan 20)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Tom Beecher (Jan 20)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Abraham Y. Chen via NANOG (Jan 21)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Ryan Hamel (Jan 21)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 21)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block James R Cutler (Jan 20)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 12)
- Re: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 12)
- RE: Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG (Jan 12)