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Re: Networks ignoring prepends?
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 04:25:44 +0000 (UTC)
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From: "Jon Lewis" <jlewis () lewis org>
On Mon, 22 Jan 2024, William Herrin wrote:It gives me, your paying customer, less control over my routing through your network than if I wasn't your paying customer. That seems... backwards.Not at all. Think like a service provider. "I've got packets to deliver. I've got 3 different classes of paths I can use. One of them, I get paid to use. One is cost neutral. The last one, I pay to use." Which path would you pick (assuming you're trying to maximize revenue from your network)?
And here, you nail it, Jon: The Internet stopped being an engineering construct many years ago, to its--and our--detriment; things work much more poorly, and harder to understand and diagnose and fix, because of this. His example, of packets going from Miami to Ft Lauderdale via One Wilshire, is a classic example. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra () baylink com Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274
Current thread:
- Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Mel Beckman (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Niels Bakker (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Jon Lewis (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Jay R. Ashworth (Jan 23)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Jon Lewis (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? James Jun (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? James Jun (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? James Jun (Jan 24)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Mel Beckman (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? James Jun (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? William Herrin (Jan 22)
- Re: Networks ignoring prepends? Owen DeLong via NANOG (Jan 22)