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Stealthy Overlay Network Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block
From: "Abraham Y. Chen" <aychen () avinta com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 21:38:52 -0500
Hi, Vasilenko:1) ... These “multi-national conglo” has enough influence on the IETF to not permit it.":
As classified by Vint Cerf, 240/4 enabled EzIP is an overlay network that may be deployed stealthily (just like the events reported by the RIPE-LAB). So, EzIP deployment does not need permission from the IETF.
Regards, Abe (2024-01-11 21:38 EST) On 2024-01-11 01:17, Vasilenko Eduard wrote:
> It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using it without announcement.This is an assurance that 240/4 would never be permitted for Public Internet. These “multi-national conglo” has enough influence on the IETF to not permit it.Ed/*From:* NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces+vasilenko.eduard=huawei.com () nanog org] *On Behalf Of *Abraham Y. Chen*Sent:* Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:35 PM *To:* KARIM MEKKAOUI <amekkaoui () mektel ca> *Cc:* nanog () nanog org; Chen, Abraham Y. <AYChen () alum MIT edu> *Subject:* 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block *Importance:* High Hi, Karim:1) If you have control of your own equipment (I presume that your business includes IAP - Internet Access Provider, since you are asking to buy IPv4 blocks.), you can get a large block of reserved IPv4 address */_for free_/* by */_disabling_/* the program codes in your current facility that has been */_disabling_/* the use of 240/4 netblock. Please have a look at the below whitepaper. Utilized according to the outlined disciplines, this is a practically unlimited resources. It has been known that multi-national conglomerates have been using it without announcement. So, you can do so stealthily according to the proposed mechanism which establishes uniform practices, just as well.https://www.avinta.com/phoenix-1/home/RevampTheInternet.pdf2) Being an unorthodox solution, if not controversial, please follow up with me offline. Unless, other NANOGers express their interests.Regards, Abe (2024-01-10 07:34 EST) On 2024-01-07 22:46, KARIM MEKKAOUI wrote: Hi Nanog Community Any idea please on the best way to buy IPv4 blocs and what is the price? Thank you KARIM <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>Virus-free.www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
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