Re: N91 Women mixer on Sunday?

[Ren Provo <ren.provo () gmail com>]

I beg to differ here and second Ilissa’s comments.  I miss WiT.  Lunch
during the meeting worked.  Giving up more of the weekend to travel does
not show half the population gathering matters.


On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 15:16 Morris, Tina via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

> Illissa,
> The mixer is at 5pm Sunday, this allows people to network and prepare for
> the week. Sunday also has a hackathon, registration, and often a welcome
> social. NANOG has a very compressed schedule and another time would
> actually mean that the women participating would have to pick between this
> event and another event or talk  that may be critical to their job
> function, which is also unfair.
>
> We are advertising this mixer to make sure all are aware and can attend,
> and the mixers will  be on the schedule at the same approximate time at
> each meeting going forward.
>
> I hope we will see you there.
>
> Tina Morris
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2024, at 14:12, Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.scott () gmail com> wrote:
>
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> > While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary
> caregivers for families and this will require them to desert their families
> a day early.  I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have
> missed the mark.
>
> The hackathon has for (as far as I’ve known about it) been on Sunday. I
> don’t work on Sundays - it’s a day for my family (unless the almighty pager
> goes off), so I’ve never gone - even though it’s one of the parts of NANOG
> I’d enjoy, and would benefit from the most.
>
> There are tradeoffs for everything - perhaps the idea was to keep the
> women’s mixer separate from the other evening events, so that those who
> wish to participate, can do all of the evening events, and not have to give
> up anything, at the cost of the extra day. That being said, I agree, moving
> more to Sunday is not an acceptable answer to me.
>
> Best Regards,
> -Thomas Scott
>
> On Mar 28, 2024 at 1:45:07 PM, Ilissa Miller <ilissa () imillerpr com> wrote:
>
> > For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG
> > matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG
> > announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all
> > of the young professional women
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> For those that know me, I rarely provide constructive input about NANOG
> > matters due to my past affiliation, however, I just saw that NANOG
> > announced the Women mixer on Sunday before NANOG 91 and am outraged for all
> > of the young professional women who would like to participate in NANOG.
> > While the times are changing, women continue to remain primary caregivers
> > for families and this will require them to desert their families a day
> > early.  I find it offensive personally and feel like you may have missed
> > the mark.
> >
> > The amount of times I hear people complain about having to leave their
> > families is one of the reasons this industry has a problem keeping young
> > people - especially women.
> >
> > Does anyone else feel the same?
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