Re: Wireless assessment app

[Hans Kokx <skipmeister123 () gmail com>]

No, I remember WiFiFoFum doing this on Windows Mobile back in the iPaq days.  There was no GPS…just one wifi radio.  I 
always wondered how it managed, since it was so accurate.  Somebody should find that guy and shake him down for answers.

--  
Hans Kokx


On Monday, June 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Bill Swearingen wrote:

> perhaps it keeps GPS coords & compass readings of last highest signal and "fakes" the radar map with that historical 
> data.  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org (mailto:robin () digininja org)> wrote:
> > On 2 June 2013 20:52, BillV-Lists <lists () varhol net (mailto:lists () varhol net)> wrote:
> > > Agreed. I don't believe the location of the points on the graph are
> > > representative of direction compared to the phone. I believe it is based on
> > > signal strength only and those points just move closer to the center. It's
> > > been a while since I've used this though and don't currently have it
> > > available to test.
> >  
> > That is exactly what I thought but my friend couldn't be convinced.
> > I'll just have to live with them being in the dark about radio.
> >  
> > Robin
> >  
> > > On 6/2/2013 12:22 PM, Larry Pesce wrote:
> > >
> > > It can't.  The display only looks good and cannot actually provide
> > > direction.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Robin Wood <robin () digininja org (mailto:robin () digininja org)> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2013 11:41 AM, "BillV-Lists" <lists () varhol net (mailto:lists () varhol net)> wrote:
> > > > I don't believe this was answered. I believe you're thinking of WiFiFoFum
> > > > and it can only be installed on jailbroken devices. Here is a screenshot:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://images.macworld.com/images/reviews/graphics/139268-wififofum_original.jpg
> > >
> > > Ye that looks like it.
> > >
> > > How can it do that from a single device?
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 5/31/2013 3:51 AM, Robin Wood wrote:
> > > > > Slightly off topic but something I'm curious about, there is an iPhone
> > > > > app I saw that shows APs on a radar type screen to indicate what direction
> > > > > each is away from you. I know you can't do this accurately with a single
> > > > > radio but the person showing me swore that it was usually spot on.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone any idea how they would be doing it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Robin
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 31, 2013 3:28 AM, "Mike Perez" <mike () pauldotcom com (mailto:mike () pauldotcom com)> wrote:
> > > > > > I'm thinking of getting a Samsung Galaxy S4, Android version that Google
> > > > > > recently announced.  Do these apps require root or just Vanilla Android?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sent from my Windows Phone
> > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > From: Bill Swearingen
> > > > > > Sent: 5/30/2013 22:18
> > > > > > To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Wireless assessment app
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I agree w/Larry -- Check out WiFi Analyzer for Android.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Larry Pesce <larry () pauldotcom com (mailto:larry () pauldotcom com)>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Brian,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We talk about this quite a bit in SANS SEC617.  I hate to say it, but I
> > > > > > > think you are correct on the iPhone side, mostly due to the fact that
> > > > > > > the wireless drivers are "less than open". To my knowledge, monitor
> > > > > > > mode
> > > > > > > support does not exist on non-jailbroken iDevices (I'm not sure about
> > > > > > > jailbroken ones).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My solution?  Go Android.  I picked up a Nexus 7 and use the following
> > > > > > > tools frequently:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kisbee - Zigbee sniffer (for use with 3rd party hardware)
> > > > > > > Pcap Capture - Monitor mode WiFi capture with a specific ALFA wireless
> > > > > > > card and OTG cable
> > > > > > > WiFiFoFum - Rogue AP locator
> > > > > > > WiFi Analyzer - Kismet-like wireless discovery
> > > > > > > WiGLE WiFi Wardriving - Kismet-like wireless discovery
> > > > > > > Cloudshark - Cloud based wireshark for analyzing pcaps
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hope that helps.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - L
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/30/13 9:58 AM, Brian Wilhide wrote:
> > > > > > > > I am curious if anyone has found any good apps for mobile devices for
> > > > > > > > wifi testing?  I have been told that all of the iPhone apps don't
> > > > > > > > detect
> > > > > > > > networks with hidden SSIDs; has anyone found any contrary evidence? I
> > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > looking for a simple solution, not a dedicated device.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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