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Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line?
From: Cold Fire <coldfire () CLOSED-NETWORKS COM>
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 04:40:47 +0100
On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 03:38:40PM -0400, JLJ wrote:
ISDN is as secure as a phone call, no more or less. If you can access the wire anywhere along the route and have equipment you can snoop the line, just like you can a phone call. I don't really think it's sa,"Noo send much of anything in the clear anymore...
I have to disagree on this, while you can plug a phone (with a few simple adjustments, comenly called a beige box) into an analogue phone anywhere along the line and using either a linemans handset, or a datatap (available from the many exchange&mart spy shops in the uk). It was always my understanding that it was far more difficult to intercept a digital connection rather than a analogue connection that said, as long as they are using a 56k connection it sould be pretty difficult to intercept anyway, of course you could slow the connection down ( by way of line noise eiugh to force it into an much more intercept friendly mode of none error correcting 4800/9600. In my defence this is not my specialist subject, howver I know of a company selling the full kit to intercept faxes+data, but i doubt this would be of much use over 14400, you are all aware of course that most SERIOUS (ie. not internet) nets works work at speeds less than this. later CF If you reread the above post you will realise you will not be able to intercept 56k connections like that, the error correction etc makes it impracticle. The simple answer is IF ITS SECRET, ENCRYPT IT BEFORE YOU SEND IT OVER A PUBLIC NETWORK!!!!!!!!! And if encryption is illegal in your country stay out of this argument. It is not worth going to jail for!!!!!!!!! -
stonewall
-- 'Cold Fire, Britains most notorious hacker' Observer, July 1997 'The most recent conviction was that of [Cold Fire] whose On-line escapades spanned from hacking into educational sites to more sinister activities such as tapping into industrial and United States military sites.' DC Paul Cox, SO6 Scotland Yard CCU
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- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Cold Fire (Oct 20)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Peter Van Epp (Oct 20)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? van der Kooij, Hugo (Oct 20)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Cold Fire (Oct 20)
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- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? van der Kooij, Hugo (Oct 20)
- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Kris Carlier (Oct 19)
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- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Knowledgebase i-Net Security (Oct 19)
- [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Dave Cowen (Oct 20)
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- Re: [PEN-TEST] OT - How secure is an ISDN line? Vitaly McLain (Oct 18)