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RE: CEH and Intense School
From: "Bartholomew, Brian J" <BartholomewBJ () state gov>
Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 08:50:08 -0500
Andrew, I have taken the course and numerous others that compare, and by far, this course was the best. But, even though it was the best, don't go in there expecting to come out the Uber Kewl Haxor that they perceive in their ads. The course material was OK, but as stated in a previous email, the instructors friggin rock. Clement is definitely the best instructor I have had in a while. Put up against two other popular "Hacking" courses, this beats them hands down. The other two that I have sampled is Foundstone's Ultimate Hacking, and Ultimate Hacking Expert, and SANS Track 4 Incident Handling and Hacker Exploits. All three of these were good courses, but not as structured. Also, the added benefit of gaining the CEH at the end of the course, as lame as it may sound, makes it better than the other three. Regarding the CEH...It is frowned upon by a lot of people as a cheesy certification glorifying script kiddies, but I have to say, it gets you money, and after all, isn't that what we are all about anyway? My suggestion is to take the course. Make sure you stay in a hotel and not at home, as classes run some nights past 2100. Also, make sure you are up to date on the various methodologies and techniques employed by the bad guys so you can bring up questions that are relevant to today (i.e. - Don't ask about things like "Ping of Death" or "Stacheldracht"). Study wireless, as you will most likely spend an entire day on it. The biggest thing to remember is go in there with an open mind and you will love the course. If you go in expecting it to suck, you will be disappointed. Sorry for the rambling, but I am sick of people blasting a course that most of them haven't taken. P.S. - Sytex runs a good course too. Brian J. Bartholomew U.S. Dept of State, Bureau of Diplomatic Security Computer Incident Response Team (W) (571)345-2654 (C) (202)369-6349 -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Turner [mailto:andrewhturner () yahoo com] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:11 PM To: pen-test () securityfocus com Subject: CEH and Intense School Greetings, I am considering taking the Ethical Hacking course tought by Intense School. Has anyone had experience with this training program? If so, I would be very interested in hearing your comments on the program. Thanks in Advance! -- Andrew H. Turner, CISSP __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Network with over 10,000 of the brightest minds in information security at the largest, most highly-anticipated industry event of the year. Don't miss RSA Conference 2004! Choose from over 200 class sessions and see demos from more than 250 industry vendors. If your job touches security, you need to be here. Learn more or register at http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/RSA_pen-test_031023 and use priority code SF4. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Network with over 10,000 of the brightest minds in information security at the largest, most highly-anticipated industry event of the year. Don't miss RSA Conference 2004! Choose from over 200 class sessions and see demos from more than 250 industry vendors. If your job touches security, you need to be here. Learn more or register at http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/RSA_pen-test_031023 and use priority code SF4. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- Re: CEH and Intense School, (continued)
- Re: CEH and Intense School Byron Sonne (Nov 06)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Peter Mercer (Nov 06)
- Re: CEH and Intense School Bilal Dar (Nov 07)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Wade Winright (Nov 06)
- Re: CEH and Intense School jvfields (Nov 06)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Chuck Herrin, CISSP, MCSE (Nov 06)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Erik Birkholz (Nov 06)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Erik Birkholz (Nov 07)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Peter Mercer (Nov 09)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Martin Dion (Nov 07)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Bartholomew, Brian J (Nov 07)
- Re: CEH and Intense School James Fields (Nov 09)
- RE: CEH and Intense School Pete Herzog (Nov 12)
- Re: CEH and Intense School James Fields (Nov 09)
- Re: CEH and Intense School TM (Nov 07)
- Re: CEH and Intense School Clement Dupuis (Nov 15)