Re: To go to University - For the CISSP etc. - Good idea/Bad idea???

[Webmaster <webmaster () networkdefense biz>]

Bill Gates got over 5000 hours of programming experience while he was in
high school.  That gave him confidence to attempt big things.
Getting an endless list of certs and diplomas (maybe [n-1] , there is a
practical limit) gives some people the confidence to attempt big things.
Some people just like the regimentation of the ed process, and that is
ok, too.  The ed process keeps you out of the bigger world while you are
feeling less confident.  
Go to University, if it helps you or you can justify it.  I like the ed
process, but one must be aware that is is not synonymous with the
discovery process.
-Wolf


-----Original Message-----
From: Adriel T. Desautels <ad_lists () netragard com>
To: James Copeland <james.copeland () gmail com>
Cc: Hy Zaret <hyzaret () gmail com>, pen-test () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: To go to University - For the CISSP etc. - Good idea/Bad
idea???
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:32:07 -0400

Bill gates doesn't have a degree.

On Aug 6, 2009, at 3:11 PM, James Copeland wrote:

> What I have found is that school is the way to go.  People will look
> at you with your certifications but without the college degree to
> "back them up" that is all that they will do.  Another good reason for
> college is that some employers will bump that pay up for just having a
> degree, no matter even if it is underwater basket weaving.  Good luck.
>
> Jimmy
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 03:26, Hy Zaret<hyzaret () gmail com> wrote:
> > Greetings & Salutations to all!
> >
> > I've been training myself for a while, and have recently came to the
> > conclusion that University would be my best choice.
> >
> > The main reasons I made this decision are;
> > • Social reasons
> > • Educational advantages
> > • Takes years off the experience needed to take the CISSP
> >
> > I'm writing on these mailing-lists for two reasons;
> > • To find out what you think of my choice (not locked in yet!!!)
> > • For advice on which course to go for (Sydney, NSW, Australia)
> >
> > I am wishing sometime in the future to begin a career in IT Security.
> >
> > Although being under 18, I have still found time to achieve various
> > certifications; including CompTIA's Security+, three Cisco
> > certifications & a Microsoft accreditation.
> >
> > Also, for the last 4 months I've been working full-time on the 1st
> > Level of an IT Helpdesk.
> >
> > Am very open to ideas, so would be interested in reading & answering
> > your replies!
> >
> > Thank you for reading this,
> >
> > Hy Zaret
> >
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