RE: illegal cheer (was: Re: CodeGreen beta release (idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)

[cat catzor <bahz0r () yahoo com>]

Stop flooding my mailbox and get a job!  Damn you
people.

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Kern [mailto:markus-kern () gmx net]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:50 AM
To: Meritt James
Cc: Michael R. Rudel; vuln-dev () securityfocus com
Subject: Re: illegal cheer (was: Re: CodeGreen beta
release
(idq-patcher/antiCodeRed/etc.)




Meritt James wrote:
> News flash:  You and your kin are not the entire
world.
> Wouldn't you like M$ to pay attention to those laws?
 Where do you think
> the vulnerabilities come from?

Laws aren't solely for Microsoft. Everyone else would
be responsible for 
bugs in their code, too. Imagine someone is sued
because his shareware
ftp server has a buffer overflow. I bet Microsoft
would love to run their
competition's software on some of their boxen just to
sue them as soon as
a bug is found.

> Markus Kern wrote:
> > Meritt James wrote:
> > > THAT is an informative statement!  If a bit of
consideration for the law
> > > was made, there would be many fewer
vulnerabilities in the first place.
> > How would consideration for the law reduce
_vulnerabilities_?
> > I have to agree with Michael Rudel.
> > When we're discussing the ethics/morals of
something current laws are
> > irrelevant.
> > Laws are deduced from the outcome of such
discussions (or that's the way
> > I think it should be).
>
> So why are YOU discussing laws, followed by a
statement that what you
> wrote is irelevant?

My question was related to your statement that laws
would reduce vulnerabilities.
The rest to Michael Rudel's post. Two different
topics.

regards,
Markus Kern

> > > But thanks for the job security!
> > >
> > > "Michael R. Rudel" wrote:
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > It is illegal under current law, but
> > > > that doesn't mean jack to me.
> > >
> > > [snip]
>
> --
> James W. Meritt, CISSP, CISA
> Booz, Allen & Hamilton
> phone: (410) 684-6566


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