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RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras
From: "Steve Armstrong" <stevearmstrong () logicallysecure com>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:14:14 -0000
Sorry for hitting this thread late, but before we start going down rabbit holes (as trying to burn out CCDs will only work on active items) , why not look at the correct tools: There are plenty of commercial tools available out there to detect the connection of differing metals such as those found on circuit boards - regardless if they are powered or not! We use them when conducting sweeps for 'bugs' and other such 'planted devices'. The "non linear junction detector" (the technical term for the device) will allow you to detect deep embedded devices as well as surface mounted ones (via power settings). However, you should note there is the problem of the rusty nail! An old nail will rust and thus contain both pure and oxide material; this can give you a false positive. Therefore, unless you are prepared to knock holes in stuff, you may not wish to ask the question as to what is in the room! The enclosed link is for one such commercial device (common in this field . http://www.audiotel-int.com/EDD.htm) . So it will tell you the answer, you just have to be ready and prepared to deal with it. Oh they are not cheap, so your best bet might be to hire someone with it, now you know what it is! :-) HTH Steve A Technical Security Consultant Logically Secure ----------------------------------------------- UK IT Security forum: www.logicallysecure.com/forum ----------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Yan Zhai Sent: 13 March 2007 14:41 To: 'Pranav Lal'; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Re: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras This may sound a little bit unrealistic, but how about having very strong light source (maybe with high intensity of UV) in the room for a while, to burn those hidden cameras' CCD? I think most such cameras should have quite sensitive CCDs to be effective under indoor light condition. On Mon, 12 Mar 2007 19:54:13 -0400, Murda Mcloud <murdamcloud () bigpond com> wrote:
Good idea Todd. Any mesh would definitely make it messy to drill a hole. Just a thought, are there any small cameras that would have an in built recording function? And if so, would this kind of camera be affected by the mesh? -----Original Message----- From: Mondragon, Todd [mailto:todd.mondragon () fmr com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 2:00 AM To: Murda Mcloud; Pranav Lal; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras No need to jam, a wire mesh placed in the walls and grounded will stop most RF devices cold. The mesh should be of the same type as screen door mesh (must be wire though!) to be able to stop any 2ghz signals. The mesh would also need to be electrically contiguous of course. Might make it hard to drill as well, the mesh would foul any powered bits and a hand tool would have great difficulty dealing with it as well. Todd Mondragon -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Murda Mcloud Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:53 PM To: 'Pranav Lal'; security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras One thing to do would be to build the room as clean and free from places that cameras could be hidden etc. ie no benches etc. Make it so that any tampering would be obvious. Also, make the walls etc out of something that would be hard to drill a pinhole in. Then some of those detectors that you listed could be used-though I can't vouch for any of them. Maybe there's a way of jamming signals too? -----Original Message----- From: listbounce () securityfocus com [mailto:listbounce () securityfocus com] On Behalf Of Pranav Lal Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:08 PM To: security-basics () securityfocus com Subject: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Hi all, I have been asked by a client to find a solution for detecting cameras in dressing rooms etc. The client has trial rooms where customers can try various garments. The concern is that some one could plant a camera in one of these rooms and photograph customers. I have checked online and have found the following sources; http://www.brickhousesecurity.com/sf-103.html http://www.spytechs.com/bug_sweep_equip/vcd_43.htm http://www.pimall.com/nais/countervideo.html http://www.intpro.co.uk/pinhole.htm http://www.intpro.co.uk/camera%20detector.htm Are there any others? Has any one on this list tried any such solutions? I have found an interesting reference on hiding and detecting cameras at http://www.tentacle.franken.de/papers/hiddencams.pdf Pranav
-- Yan Zhai Ph.D. Cyber Defense Lab NCSU
Current thread:
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras, (continued)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Craig Wright (Mar 12)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Pranav Lal (Mar 12)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Murda Mcloud (Mar 12)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Pranav Lal (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Rosario Chella (R) (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Mondragon, Todd (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Murda Mcloud (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Liam Downward (Mar 13)
- Re: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Yan Zhai (Mar 13)
- Re: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Buz Dale (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Steve Armstrong (Mar 14)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Murda Mcloud (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Pranav Lal (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Steven Hess (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras S. Earl Jarosh (Mar 14)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Pranav Lal (Mar 15)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Craig Wright (Mar 12)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Steven Adair (Mar 13)
- RE: Seeking a solution for detecting hidden cameras Pranav Lal (Mar 14)