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Re: Internet Worm
From: jmb () kryten Atinc COM (Jonathan M. Bresler)
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 1994 18:39:37 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 17 Oct 1994, Perry E. Metzger wrote:
"Jonathan M. Bresler" says:BUGGER the vendors. what with FreeBSD, linux, NetBSD, 4.4BSD Lite and the rest of source code available UNIX operating systems. get the source. read the source. use the source. after all its ours now! the owner-de-jour of the code has declared 4.4BSD Lite free of taint.[...]anyone want to create drop in replacement packages for sun, sgi and the rest of the hardware vendors?Try fixing a kernel bug with non-vendor sources. Hell, try fixing most problems with non-vendor sources. Furthermore, my clients pay lots of money for software support so that they don't have to fix the problems themselves. Frankly, I think you are absolutely and completely wrong on this.
rcp, rsh, rlogin....are not kernel sources. try making the code--works fine. if youre saying that there are kernel bugs that compromise the system.....then whose fault...where should we send our money? lots of money for software support--which version of sendmail is sun shipping these days? who ships the machine wide open? which binary only bug fix was it that openned more holes than it fixed. bitter? damn right i'm little bitter about this. if my car worked this way, i'd...i'd.....i'd...buy japanese. (oh yeah, thats right, i did buy japanese last time.....thanks to entrusting gm with my money once too many times.) damn it, we pay for this level of service as well--twice. once for the vendor to do his part and then once for our own staff to fix the problem. look i like suns, i just wanna spend more time using it and less time fixing the holes. i posted the first part in a fit of pique. i should have just let it ride. maybe someone will be helped by my advice, maybe not. sigh. best of luck. jmb Jonathan M. Bresler jmb () kryten atinc com | Analysis & Technology, Inc. | 2341 Jeff Davis Hwy play go. | Arlington, VA 22202 ride bike. hack FreeBSD.--ah the good life | 703-418-2800 x346
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- Re: Internet Worm Steve Davis (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Jonathan M. Bresler (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Perry E. Metzger (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Jonathan M. Bresler (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Perry E. Metzger (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Bennett Todd (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Perry E. Metzger (Oct 18)
- Re: Internet Worm Scott Schwartz (Oct 18)
- Re: Internet Worm Perry E. Metzger (Oct 18)
- Re: Internet Worm Steve Davis (Oct 17)
- Re: Internet Worm Christine R. Gressley (Oct 17)
- r commands Aleph One (Oct 17)
- Re: r commands Perry E. Metzger (Oct 18)
- Re: r commands Fred Kuhns (Oct 18)
- Re: Internet Worm Bennett Todd (Oct 17)