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Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle
From: Peter Conrad <conrad () tivano de>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:13:06 +0100
Hi, Am Samstag, 10. November 2007 19:53 schrieb Jan Newger:
NO! This is totally WRONG! The only thing which is logged, in the case of internet connectivity, is your IP you got from the ISP. Not even connections are logged! This is important to understand since many people are misinformed this way. Read http://www.vorratsdatenspeicherung.de/content/view/78/86/lang,de/#Umsetzung _in_Deutschland
1. That document is not quite up-to-date. I don't think there were any improvements in the actually passed law, though. 2. The IP is not "the only thing which is logged". Besides telephone and SMS/MMS connections the following is logged: - for internet connections (i. e. dial-in or equivalent): - IP number - connecting user (i. e. the calling phone number, ppp userid or equivalent) - Timestamp - for email - sender and recipient address of every email (logged on sending as well as receiving servers) - IP address(es) accessing a mailbox - timestamps for both of the above - for anonymizing services (!): - original and anonymized identifiers (e. g. IP or email address) - timestamps So much for "Einigkeit und Recht und Freiheit". Bye, Peter -- Peter Conrad Tel: +49 6102 / 80 99 072 [ t]ivano Software GmbH Fax: +49 6102 / 80 99 071 Bahnhofstr. 18 http://www.tivano.de/ 63263 Neu-Isenburg Germany
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- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Matt D. Harris (Nov 12)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Jan Newger (Nov 12)