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Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle
From: Frank Guthausen <fg-bugtraq () nsv-server de>
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:34:33 +0100
Hello. On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 04:38:39PM -0500, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:07:02 PST, johan beisser said:The logs don't contain context, just who/where/when. While encryption will prevent (one hopes) the capability of recovering context, who you talked to is not kept private or otherwise secret.It's probably a good idea to deploy encryption *now*, and use it for *everything*, and be ready for when (not if) they decide to be more draconian in their logging requirements.
AFAIR the German situation is as follows: Any German email provider having more than 1000 customers has to provide a method for giving government access to the mailbox including the ability to read the content. Access should be controlled by judges. If there are more than 10000 customers it has to be done with hardware, so called sina boxes. Even if there is not a precise definition of customer (person, company, contract) it is quite clear that the law has got an impact on users of t-online, web.de, GMX, Freenet and others. This law started Jan 1st, 2005. The data retention law is a possibility to analyze social networks even if email is encrypted. There are other purposes, too. regards Frank
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- Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Peter Conrad (Nov 13)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Duncan Simpson (Nov 13)
- Re: [Full-disclosure] Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle johan beisser (Nov 13)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle johan beisser (Nov 12)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Matt D. Harris (Nov 12)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle johan beisser (Nov 12)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Florian Echtler (Nov 13)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Paul Wouters (Nov 13)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle johan beisser (Nov 13)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 13)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Frank Guthausen (Nov 14)
- Re: Standing Up Against German Laws - Project HayNeedle Matt D. Harris (Nov 12)
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