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RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm
From: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 16:37:10 -0500
Off course you're right. My point, which I obviously made ineptly, is that *everything* must be patched at some point, so the idea that you install a DSL router and just forget about it was what I was trying to get at. There *is* no panacea for security. It's an ongoing, never-ending process of checking and rechecking and rechecking again to make sure that there aren't any known holes in your defenses. Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas AVIEN Founding Member http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ -----Original Message----- From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:09 PM To: Schmehl, Paul L Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm On Thu, 05 Jun 2003 10:17:57 CDT, "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls () utdallas edu> said:
I wasn't going to respond to that because it was so patently obvious, but since you did, I'll append this note - I have flashed my DSL router three times since I bought it. I've had it for about a year. (It's not a LinkSys or a NetGear router. It's an SMC Barricade.) In case anyone hasn't noticed, you have to patch some systems almost daily - RedHat, for example, Windows obviously, etc., etc.
On the flip side, let's compare apples to apples, shall we? Unless your DSL Router also has Gnome and OpenOffice and 693 other .rpms installed, the RedHat is getting patched more because there's more stuff. How about comparing how often you have to update your DSL router with how often you have to update the corresponding code on a RedHat box (say, the networking parts of the kernel, iptables/iproute, maybe iputils and parts of initscripts)? _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm, (continued)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm John Ruppert (Jun 05)
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Robert J. Liebsch (Jun 05)
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Ben Tyson-Norrman (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm eddie (Jun 05)
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm John Ruppert (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Robert J. Liebsch (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm tstowell (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm tstowell (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Schmehl, Paul L (Jun 05)
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- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm Brad Bemis (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm David Vincent (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm eddie (Jun 05)
- Re: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm morning_wood (Jun 05)
- RE: [OFFTOPIC] Zone Alarm eddie (Jun 05)