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Re: Who Do I Contact?


From: "CrYpTiC MauleR" <crypticmauler () linuxmail org>
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:13:40 -0500

I have not viewed anyones SSNs not even one. I just know the hole is there and that someone can view mine which makes 
it possible for anyone to view anyone's. I have been careful not to overstep my bounds by accessing anything not 
already accesible legally. I just wish for this to be fixed so I can sleep at night, but instead knowing that I may 
already have had my SSN stolen. Who knows. I'm just very frustrated at the school's lack of concern and speed.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Eaton" <eaton.lists () gmail com>
To: full-disclosure () lists grok org uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Who Do I Contact?
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 15:59:25 -0400


On 4/22/06, CrYpTiC MauleR <crypticmauler () linuxmail org> wrote:
I'm sorry I don't plan on going public with the details of the 
hole except with
school staff and/or law enforcement. Main reason being dont want to put my
info and my parents info in any great danger than it already is 
in. As you know
identity theft is one of the fastest growing crimes so I feel 
that releasing the
news before the holes is fixed will do more damage than good.

Understood.  I would have the same concerns if I were in your
position.  For what it's worth, I was not suggesting you go public
with details.  I was thinking the process would go more like this:

- you talk to the editor of the paper, explain the impact of the hole,
and make sure they understand that if they were to publish too much
information about the problem it could lead to several thousand SSNs
getting stolen.

- the paper could visit the VP of IT and interview them, get them to
confirm the problem and explain what is being done to resolve the
issue.

- hopefully that pushes the IT department to move a little more
quickly to either fix the problem, or at least take steps to reduce
the risk of it being exploited.

- If the problem gets fixed, great.  The paper gets a scoop by
publishing the story, the info doesn't get stolen, everybody sleeps
better at night.

- If the problem doesn't get fixed, the paper gets to release a little
bit of information about the hole, hopefully not too much.  The VP of
IT starts getting pressure from students, parents, and alumni to
resolve the issue.  Almost nobody sleeps better at night, but
hopefully there will be quicker progress once there is more pressure.

I do suggest you be careful.  You (apparently) have exploited this
hole to view at least a few SSNs.  Though I'm sure you had only good
intentions, you were probably breaking the law when you did that.
Also, people don't tend to react well when threatened.  It's better to
play nice and keep lines of communication open.

Best of luck to you.

Regards,
Brian

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