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Re: Hey old people
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:18:09 +0000 (GMT)
On Tue, 27 Dec 2005, Aviram Jenik wrote:
On Sunday, 25 December 2005 21:04, Drsolly wrote:Can crypto weaknesses be considered 'vulnerabilities'? In most cases (e.g. cracking the Enigma code and deciphering the Zimmerman telegram) they are done by humintly retrieving the key or brute-forcing the cipher in one way or another.AFAIR breaking the Enigma consisted of: A. Getting the actual hardware (without which the allies were completely clueless)
Actually, the Poles managed to crack Enigma before they got hold of the hardware.
B. Performing a brute-force attack every morning to get that day's key
The whole point of Enigma (and devices like it) was that you couldn't brute-force it. Also, remember that at that time a "computer" was a person with a pencil and paper.
I believe the weakness in the design Roland mentioned allowed the brute force attack to succeed in a relatively short time - but it did not generate the key right away (Roland - am I right?)
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- RE: Hey old people Larry Seltzer (Dec 22)
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