Re: French ruling party having a riot on the Internet

[David LaPorte <david_laporte () harvard edu>]

Maybe it's my own misconception, but citizenship in continental Europe 
seems tied more tightly to historical and ethnic identity than in 
America.  America is the cliched "nation of immigrants" - you'd be hard 
pressed to find someone with pre-revolutionary roots, while Europe has 
hundreds of years of legacy (baggage?).

I guess my question is, does this subtle association of ethnicity and 
citizenship actually exist?  If so, has that in part lead to the 
ghetto-ization of those "different" from the historical culture?  It 
seems (and this is only based on my experience in the US and years of 
reading the BBC and the Economist) that there is much better integration 
and assimilation of immigrants in America.  My guess is that since US 
citizenship is based on an "idea" vs some historical identity, it is 
more likely to accept outsiders as long as they are believers.  Can 
someone who's lived in the US and on the continent comment?

Your example of the Japanese internment is valid, but I wonder if in 
this case the exception proves the rule.

Dave

Pierre Vandevenne wrote:
> Good Day,
>
> BA> disaffected 'French' youths. I don't consider them French for the
> BA> simple reason that their loyalties ultimately lay elsewhere.
>
> Yeah, I remember that it is a tendency you guys have...
>
> http://www.lib.utah.edu/spc/photo/9066/9066.htm
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