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RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail
From: "Larry Seltzer" <larry () larryseltzer com>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 13:24:29 -0500
Please re-read my example. I was supposing a (non-spam) mailing by an ISP of 1 million, of which 100,000 goes to AOL members, which means a cost of $1000.
Right. I was pointing out that in *reality*, GoodMail will bill on the *total* volume, not the volume that goes to GoodMail customers. So if you send a mailing of 1M pieces of mail, of which *one* goes to AOL, you're *still* on the hook for $10K.
I just got off the phone with Richard Gingras, co-founder and CEO of Goodmail and asked him about this, among other things. As I suspected, it's crap. The only messages for which senders are billed are the ones processed by recipient ISPs (actually recipient MTAs I guess). You could send out all 1 million messages in your example with tokens, but only be billed for the 100,000 AOL customers (and any others which had Goodmail service). And they have not finalized a rate card, but expect the cost to be in the neighborhood of 1/4 cent per message. I have to say I'm astonished at the amount of misinformation out there about this service, and some of it is so naïve I can't keep a straight face reading it. The Goodmail people seem to think that it's all been planted by their competitors (Spamhaus and the like, I suppose) but I'm more suspicious of credulousness in the press and a desire for a fantastic story ("Will you have to pay for email from now on?!?!?!") Larry Seltzer eWEEK.com Security Center Editor http://security.eweek.com/ http://blog.ziffdavis.com/seltzer Contributing Editor, PC Magazine larryseltzer () ziffdavis com _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail, (continued)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 06)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Dude VanWinkle (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Dude VanWinkle (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Richard Cox (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail der Mouse (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- Re[2]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- RE: Re[2]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- RE: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)
- Re: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 09)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 06)