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RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:34:41 +0000 (GMT)
On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Larry Seltzer wrote:
Please re-read my example. I was supposing a (non-spam) mailing by an ISP of 1 million, of which 100,000 goes to AOL members, which means a cost of $1000.Right. I was pointing out that in *reality*, GoodMail will bill on the *total* volume, not the volume that goes to GoodMail customers. So if you send a mailing of 1M pieces of mail, of which *one* goes to AOL, you're *still* on the hook for $10K.I just got off the phone with Richard Gingras, co-founder and CEO of Goodmail and asked him about this, among other things. As I suspected, it's crap. The only messages for which senders are billed are the ones processed by recipient ISPs (actually recipient MTAs I guess). You could send out all 1 million messages in your example with tokens, but only be billed for the 100,000 AOL customers (and any others which had Goodmail service). And they have not finalized a rate card, but expect the cost to be in the neighborhood of 1/4 cent per message. I have to say I'm astonished at the amount of misinformation out there about this service, and some of it is so naïve I can't keep a straight face reading it. The Goodmail people seem to think that it's all been planted by their competitors (Spamhaus and the like, I suppose) but I'm more suspicious of credulousness in the press and a desire for a fantastic story ("Will you have to pay for email from now on?!?!?!")
People believe what they want to believe. If the facts get in the way of that, then the facts must be wrong, so you make up facts that support your belief. Read Slashdot, you'll see what I mean. Isn't it obvious that if you don't send your email via Goodmail, then Goodmail won't be charging you? _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
Current thread:
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail, (continued)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Dude VanWinkle (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Dude VanWinkle (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 07)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Richard Cox (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Drsolly (Feb 08)
- Re: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail der Mouse (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- RE: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- Re[2]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- RE: Re[2]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 08)
- Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Pierre Vandevenne (Feb 08)
- RE: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)
- Re: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 09)
- RE: Re[4]: Postage Is Due for Companies Sending E-Mail Larry Seltzer (Feb 09)