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Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep
From: "Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" <rMslade () shaw ca>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:30:51 -0800
Date sent: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:30:08 -0500 From: Dude VanWinkle <dudevanwinkle () gmail com>
Let me play devils advocate for a sec: On some/future/date, Paul Schmehl <pauls () utdallas edu> could write: So you want to give the Terrorists the -plans to the white house security system, and let Them know when and where the president is going to be at all times as well as disclose the positions of our nukes to the Commies? /devils_advocate
Sure. In return, you know where the terrorists are at all times, as well as their plans for attacking you. What's the problem? (Well, you set up a stupid hypothetical, you get a stupid situation.) You know where the Commies have their nukes, and the serial numbers (and locations, and current armed state) of the ones they sold to the terrorists.
So is the book saying that total transparency is the way to go,.. or just that the information collected by one group needs to also include themselves in the roster that should then be made publicly available?
Brin mildly suggests that transparency is the way to go (when you have the invasive technologies that currently exist, and towards which we are moving). However, mostly he is taking the usual trite privacy arguments and turning them upside down. The results are fascinating.
I should probably just buy the book, but this is more fun ;-)
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- RE: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Richard M. Smith (Feb 10)
- RE: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Paul Schmehl (Feb 10)
- RE: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Richard M. Smith (Feb 10)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Valdis . Kletnieks (Feb 10)
- RE: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Richard M. Smith (Feb 10)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Dude VanWinkle (Feb 10)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Feb 11)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Dude VanWinkle (Feb 12)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah (Feb 12)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Paul Schmehl (Feb 12)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Dude VanWinkle (Feb 12)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Dude VanWinkle (Feb 12)
- Re: U.S. Plans Massive Data Sweep Paul Schmehl (Feb 10)