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RE: Vulnerability-based IPS Patent
From: Nick FitzGerald <nick () virus-l demon co uk>
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 15:27:36 +1200
Richard M. Smith to me:
So did these TSR scanners look at files after they were stored on disk or while the files were coming through DOS before being stored on disk? The latter approach is required to be prior art for the patent.
I think "after being stored on disk BUT before the file was finally closed" would also count as prior art, as at that point you can prevent the file ever being properly utilized by deleting it or otherwise preventing further access to it. Precisely how Alan's, Roger's, or others' TSR scanners worked in these regards will have to be answered by them... But you raise an interesting issue -- would an Email virus scanner (say) necessarily be in breach of the Hilgraeve patent? Most seem to have assumed that the answer is "yes". If the AV worked by employing an initial receipt queue, processing message streams that had been entirely written to file in that queue, then deciding whether to continue processing them through the next delivery queue or not, based on their virality, they might be able to be written in such a way that the AV is not "automatically inhibiting the screened digital data from being stored on said destination storage medium if at least one predefined sequence is present" (depending on your definition (missing in the Hilgraeve patent?) of "destination storage medium"). Regards, Nick FitzGerald _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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