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Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis'
From: "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 12 May 2006 10:14:54 -0500
The FIRST story I ever heard about echelon was on Bell's radio show (his name is RIGHT THERE... ugh). That story had it as a world-wide spy network, complete with agreements with foreign countries. In return for our spying on their citizens they would spy on us. Now, just like the program itself, I've never seen anything saying this is true or untrue - but most people accepted it and moved on (unless you were prone to wearing tinfoil hats or hanging out at gun shows after hours). So, again, what's the big deal NOW? On 5/12/06, Fergie <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:
This entire debacle is about _who_is_targeted_ in the snooping. When the _foreign_ intelligence community turns its attention inwardly on it's own people, nothing good can come of it, insofar as personal privacy issues are concerned. - ferg -- "Brian Loe" <knobdy () gmail com> wrote: So then, why all the hell raising about these new "developments"? And why all the bashing of the US when Echelon is a world-wide, multinational endeavor? The new news is old news, as it always is. For that matter, the EFF knew about this week's headlines so long ago they've already got a lawsuit going on the matter. Wasn't it you, even, that posted a link to that under-reported story? http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_04.php#004613 (dated APRIL 28TH!!!) On 5/12/06, Fergie <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:It's still there, although not officially acknowledged. In fact, it all falls under the Echelon umbrella, a.k.a. Total Informationa Awareness (even if it was, ahem, cancelled). ;-) $.02, - ferg-- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg () netzero net or fergdawg () sbcglobal net ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
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- [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Fergie (May 11)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Valdis . Kletnieks (May 12)
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- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Fergie (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Fergie (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Fergie (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Fergie (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Drsolly (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 13)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Drsolly (May 13)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Dude VanWinkle (May 14)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Dude VanWinkle (May 14)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)
- Re: [privacy] NSA Database Report Draws Focus on 'Analysis' Brian Loe (May 12)