Re: RE: [privacy] Gas prices and car driving

[Andrew <andrewwilly () gmail com>]

You have an interest in confusing the obvious for the purpose of being 
contrary. Or so it seems to me.

/"The problem isn't the difference in the speeds of the two cars. //The 
problem is the difference in speed between your car going 20 OR 60 mph 
and the moose doing ZERO MPH."  /

It was a direct question about running into a moose and which speed is 
worse (assuming "worse" means likelihood of injury to occupants) --- 20 
or 60 miles per hour.   Is there any question that 60 mph, or any speed 
greater than the one compared to for that matter, is "worse"?

An earlier message prefaced the above fallacy with: "/Truth is, speed 
doesn't kill - a difference in speed does." /Enlightening.

And this gem: "/And enough with the physics "lessons" - they don't help 
you either. If I drive and 120mph its not a problem until I hit a wall 
(doing 0mph) or another vehicle going slower. If the vehicle I hit is 
doing 110, and depending on the cars, it might be possible to recover 
from the *bump* and it certainly has no bearing on my being a fatality/. "

This statements suggests that it doesn't matter what the speed is as 
long as we're all doing it together. Drivers, those typically 
constrained by speed limits, run into walls, trees, stopped vehicles, 
and moose, not things in motion, at least in motion in the same 
direction. With zero motion as the constant (fair, since in relation to 
a car, the greater part of the world is stationary), then speed 
certainly does kill.

Andrew

Brian Loe wrote:
> On 8/4/06, Richard M. Smith <rms () bsf-llc com> wrote:
> > How about giving it another shot.  Here's a concrete example:  Which is
> > worse:  hitting a 1,000 pound moose standing on a roadway when 
> > traveling 20
> > MPH vs. 60 MPH?  (As an aside, moose are a big problem on New Hampshire
> > highways.  Most people don't realize how dangerous they can be when 
> > hitting
> > them at Interstate speeds.)
>
> Now I understand you Richard - but you're not understanding me. Let ME
> try again:
>
> The problem isn't the difference in the speeds of the two cars. The
> problem is the difference in speed between your car going 20 OR 60 mph
> and the moose doing ZERO MPH.
>
> The DIFFERENCE in speed kills - but you have to be measuring the two
> objects involved in the wreck!!!
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