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Re: bankone/chase non-scam


From: "Dennis Henderson" <hendomatic () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:55:46 -0600

On 11/28/06, Larry Seltzer <Larry () larryseltzer com> wrote:

Oh, I was talking about Paul's messages (from Chase)

Larry Seltzer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Evron [mailto:ge () linuxbox org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:02 PM
To: Larry Seltzer
Cc: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: RE: [funsec] bankone/chase non-scam

On Tue, 28 Nov 2006, Larry Seltzer wrote:
> I don't see any headers on these e-mails so I can't judge them. I
> don't see enough proof that these messages are legit, but I see no
> reason to believe they are illegit. How could they possibly be used in
a scam?

I spoke of a bank of america email sent the other day to someone we both
know.

The email was legit, yet:
1. The server did not sit in the same hosting location as
www.bankofamerica.com.
2. It was a different domain.
3. It was a different certificate.
4. etc.

I did not believe this was a legitimate email, I was sure it was spam
phishing.

I was wrong. It was a legitimate email from the bank of america.

What is that all about?



A lot of Banks, mine included, hire other companies to send out marketing
and informative emails. We even add an SPF record to allow that company to
send on behalf of the bank.

Did I agree with this? Hell no, but again, another business decision...


One thing that is for sure, we send out our own emails where official
business is concerned and the war to keep URL's off the email was easily won
once we got phished.

Dennis
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