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Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed
From: "Matthew Murphy" <mattmurphy () kc rr com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 11:08:06 -0700
On 6/13/07, Fergie <fergdawg () netzero net> wrote:
- -- ge () linuxbox org wrote:Guys, we need to remember that if ISPs are to actually comply with "legal requests" they need to have an infrastructure to enable it, otherwise it is total hell.This is NOT about legal requests -- this is about something that is arguably illegal. Read the article.
What I think Gadi means is that it's entirely reasonable for a surveillance infrastructure to exist, as AT&T would require one to comply with the law (CALEA, et al). Therefore, the mere existence of a surveillance infrastructure (purpose unclarified) at AT&T does not necessarily mean that *illegal* or *extra-judicial* surveillance was taking place. It does seem at first glance that the documents originally "leaked" by Wired are, at best, soft on evidence that the surveillance equipment deployed is for illegal purposes. The government should not be hiding behind state secrets and neither should AT&T, but ironically, the fact that they are is why we cannot discount the possibility of entirely legal action on AT&T's part. I'm not holding my breath, but the possibility is nonetheless real. _______________________________________________ privacy mailing list privacy () whitestar linuxbox org http://www.whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/privacy
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- [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Richard M. Smith (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed ge (Jun 13)
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- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Fergie (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Matthew Murphy (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed ge (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Matthew Murphy (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Fergie (Jun 13)
- Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed Fergie (Jun 13)