Re: [privacy] AT&T 'Spy Room' Documents Unsealed

["Fergie" <fergdawg () netzero net>]

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- -- "Matthew Murphy" <mattmurphy () kc rr com> wrote:

> What I think Gadi means is that it's entirely reasonable for a
> surveillance infrastructure to exist, as AT&T would require one to
> comply with the law (CALEA, et al).  Therefore, the mere existence of
> a surveillance infrastructure (purpose unclarified) at AT&T does not
> necessarily mean that *illegal* or *extra-judicial* surveillance was
> taking place.  It does seem at first glance that the documents
> originally "leaked" by Wired are, at best, soft on evidence that the
> surveillance equipment deployed is for illegal purposes.
>
> The government should not be hiding behind state secrets and neither
> should AT&T, but ironically, the fact that they are is why we cannot
> discount the possibility of entirely legal action on AT&T's part.  I'm
> not holding my breath, but the possibility is nonetheless real.

I would agree, however, I'd qualify my agreement to a certain
degree in the terms of "legality" -- if the NARUS infrastrcuture
was installed simply to comply with impending CALEA requirements,
then I would have to say it's just all peachy, sunshine, and
above-board (well. maybe not sunshine).

I do hope that the facts will become clear at some point, that
shows whether AT&T was specifically complicit (or not) in
providing customer records to the U.S. Government without a
lawful court order (or NSL, or FISA order, or otherwise).

There's a fine line here in simply comply with a lawful order
and selling out your customer's call data.

$.02,

- - ferg

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