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Re: Re: wow - is a "shadow" politician still a politician?
From: Drsolly <drsollyp () drsolly com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 21:37:04 +0100 (BST)
Cutting down the nettles would have done no good, I fully agree. The cause was not the nettles at all. The cause then, would have been you standing on the rickety log, with the effect of you falling in a bed of nettles. So, following the idea of Western medicine, cutting down the nettles would have been the perfect answer. On the other hand, following the idea of handling the CAUSE would mean either making sure you don't climb on rickety logs
How do I make sure of that? I don't know a way, unless you suggest that I avoid getting onto logs altogether.
, or if you do, making sure you have enough sense of balance to handle it without falling.
How do I measure my sense of balance, and compare it with the balance required for a particular log? No - the answer was nettle cream, which treated the symptom, which wsa exactly what I wanted.
Similarly, handling the CAUSE of gun crimes would not mean banning guns. Big deal, so the criminals make their own own, steal them, use swords or knives or baseball bats. Rather, it would be handling why they are being criminal in the first place. THAT would be handling the cause of gun crime.
That's a bit like suggesting that I make sure that I don't climb onto rickety logs. I don't know how to do that. And I don't know how to handle why people become criminals. So, given that I can't stop people from becoming criminals, I rather like the idea of making it substantially more difficult for them to murder. Sure, if you could magically disappear all guns, people would still hit each other with bricks. But it's a lot harder to murder with a brick, than with a gun. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
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