Re: The Criminal Underground: A Walk on the Dark Side

["Rob, grandpa of Ryan, Trevor, Devon & Hannah" <rMslade () shaw ca>]

> Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
>
> > You want a *real* headache, contemplate the fun we'll have if the bad guys
> > ever release something that takes advantage of the emergent-systems properties
> > of self-assembling networks (basically, imagine a Storm worm, except it's able
> > to re-find other copies of itself dynamically if the C&C gets nuked.

It's people like you what cause unrest.

Date sent:              Thu, 06 Sep 2007 16:35:49 +0100
From:                   Jim Murray <jim () digitaldaemons co uk>

> I fear something like this either already exists or is well into it's
> development cycle. The hard part is the initial discovery protocol - ie.
> how a node finds it's first 'neighbour'. Getting that right is the most
> critical part to the overall success of the scheme. It needs to be
> something that's not going to be easy to filter since it will,
> inevitably, be picked apart byte by byte within days.

I've been promoting something very like this, on a wireless network basis, for 
either voice or data.  I think it would be the next big thing in telecom, and would 
put the telcos out of business.  (However, it would appear that a business model for 
it is not only difficult, but possibly inherently impossible.)

> Model it on a peer to peer network with no centralised control
> (gnutella?) and all you really need to bolt on is the discovery
> protocol. The larger the network grows the harder it will become to
> break it, the number of alternate 'paths' increases much faster then the
> host count.

Similarly, with a wireless network, you avoid the contention model of every 
available network setup (whereby the more operating nodes in an area the worse 
the possibility of communications), and achieve a system where the more nodes 
are operating in a given area, the *better* the available bandwidth  ...

(So, if the Storm boys do it, lets copy it ...)

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