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RE: Mythbusters beat biometric finger print security


From: "Larry Seltzer" <Larry () larryseltzer com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:24:40 -0400

I knew about the American MythBusters and was wondering about Gadi's
reference. I assumed they did a second show for Europeans with different
guys. They actually just voice over? Like Godzilla movies?
 
Larry Seltzer
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From: funsec-bounces () linuxbox org [mailto:funsec-bounces () linuxbox org]
On Behalf Of C Q
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:25 AM
To: funsec () linuxbox org
Subject: Re: [funsec] Mythbusters beat biometric finger print security


Mythbusters are not a British show. It's actually an American show...
Take a look at their bios... It's just for Europe the Discovery Channel
modifies the shows and uses a British voice over guy, so the European 
folks feel more comfortable.



On 7/7/07, Gadi Evron <ge () linuxbox org> wrote: 

        Mythbusters is a cool British show that tries to scientifically
attack
        myths. They even use guns. :P
        
        To be honest, the way they conduct experiments and reach
conclusions is
        somewhat flawed, to say the least, but they are cool, serious
and 
        professional (aside for the occasional safety boo-boo). They
invest time
        and resources in building monstrosities to prove points. :)
        
        This time, it was about breaking biometric systems with Gummy
bears!
        (see bottom of post for references) 
        
        I really like this video, which you can watch on YouTube:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXyFmieZjiE
        
        I have seen this over at Xavier Ashe's The Lazy Genius 
        
(http://blog.xavier.ashe.com/blog/_archives/2006/10/2/2381055.html) a
        longg time ago, but just made a search to find it again and post
it 
        here. In the past, I have studied biometrics extensively and how
the
        systems can be beat. But there is nothing like a short video to
make
        your point for you.
        
        Original link is from:
        http://blogs.technet.com/steriley/archive/2006/09/20/457845.aspx
        
        The original public paper discussing this particular technique
of $10
        worth materials for breaking these systems using Gummy bears is
from
        Tsutomu Matsumoto, a Japanese cryptographer, from around 2002.
        I don't think his paper was ever online, but his slides were.
They seem
        gone now at a casual search, but I found some other slides by
him:
        http://web.mit.edu/6.857/OldStuff/Fall03/ref/gummy-slides.pdf
        
                Gadi.
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